That scene with the raven, the scalping and the strange story the man in the chair was repeating over and over. Well I have to say that is about the creepiest thing I have seen yet in the TWD universe. Yeah, the cannibals of Terminus were pretty messed up. And the gov and the fish tanks was just this side of psycho.

BUT a scalping, and just enough of a scalping that he was still alive - C.R.E.E.P.Y.

And then Troy in his crazed mind wanted to argue with the man who at the very least said "scalp him"????

What do you guys think? Creepiest thing thus far? How many of lovely locks people have the Otto's killed and for what purpose? Was the killing in self defense or was the killing an offensive move? What else have the Otto clan and their followers done to L.L's people to deserve something as horrific as a scalping?

Seems that their is a great deal of history between LL and the Otto clan. Did the Otto family at one point in time take LL's land from his long ago ancestors? Has this been a Hatfield and MccCoys feud for years and years with the ZA lending both sides the freedom from law to just go bat shit crazy on one another? I hope this story plays out to its full potential this season. Please do not let it tie itself up in a pretty bow in just a few episodes. I like the idea of this type of conflict with (as of now) no real clue as to who the so called bad guy might be. Is it Otto? Is it Lovely Locks? Or is it some combination of the two? OHHHHHHHH and what IF Ofelia is with Lovely Locks and gang? That means that Madison will then hold her to some degree responsible for the death of Travis.

 

Walker "Lovely Locks" mentioned that the Otto ranchers killed some of his people hence the retaliation. I am not ready to label either group as the instigator in this feud just yet. I think there is far too much story that we are unaware of in order to make that type of judgement.

If push came to shove and I were forced to choose which side I think is the worst of the two - I would go with the Otto clan and company at this point. There is just something sinister with them it seems.

Who knows though, maybe when the blanks of the the two sides stories are filled in I will be singing a different tune. For now, I am going to with the Otto's being a bit more unhinged than the Lovely Locks crew.

 

Ehhh still not ready to commit to one side being more evil than the other. We have yet to find out what (if anything) the Otto clan and cronies have subjected the other group to. I am sticking to my theory that the Otto's are not as magnanimous as we are being led to believe. Troy may be the obvious unhinged person of that group at this point but at least he is a known evil. It is the unknown evil that may well be lurking within the others in that camp that has me on guard.

The other group? Not sure about them either. As I stated, we have yet to learn their story, their connection with the Otto's, why there is discord between the groups, were their actions defensive or offensive? In my opinion, too many questions remain unanswered to make an unequivocal stand for one side or the other

 

Never stated that either group was the good guy. Never stated that Travis is being kept magically alive by anyone. What I did state is that while Walker and his group have done horrible things, we have yet to find out all there is to know of Jeremiahs group and what they may have a hand in, what they may (or may not) have been party to in regard to violence and torture of other people and/or groups.

Troy is part of the Otto group and Troy and his weekend warrior buds did massacre a great many (if not all but Nick and Luciana) of the colonia group. And it was Troy and his cronies who were taking a great deal of pleasure in lining up people at the military base, killing them in cold blood while others watched on and awaited their same fates all in the name of "science". And also throwing Travis into a pit of walkers to see if he could fight his way out. Not exactly a group of nice fair minded play by the rules kind of people either it would seem. Did Jeremiah know? If he did not know what Troy was doing he certainly seems okay to just brush it off and chalk it up to Troy's troubled childhood.

 

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