Probably so. I would like to think members of that mob were ashamed of themselves in retrospect. But you are right--it rests with Trump--whether he will stop chumming them.

 

How long did it take Germans who cheered on the Nazis to feel ashamed of themselves after the war ended? Once people are in that groupthink mentality, it takes a lot for them to snap back to reality. BTW, chumming is an excellent word.

 

Thanks! lol

That's a good question. It seems to me that virtually all of the general German population just denied they ever had supported the Third Reich, even though the rallies were huge. Then again, wasn't it pretty quickly that the nation of Germany acknowledged a national shame? Maybe that happened because individual citizens felt genuine remorse right away.

 

You would think he would be embarrassed when caught lying, but nope, this guy doubles down on the lie, then diverts to some other ridiculous lie.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/trump-says-he-was-not-happy-with-send-her-back-chant


The truth is out there

 

This is why Trump is now pretending he tried to stop the chanting:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/republicans-send-her-back-chant-1420305

"Republican members are expressing shock and discomfort over the “send her back” chants that erupted during President Donald Trump’s rally Wednesday night, with even some members of House GOP leadership conveying their concerns to Vice President Mike Pence on Thursday.

During a breakfast meeting with Republican leaders, multiple members said they were disturbed by the chants aimed at Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) and asked Pence to relay their message to Trump, which he agreed to do, according to several members who were present.

...

And Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.), who was also uneasy with the tweets and rally cries, said Pence seemed to share in their concerns.

“He said, ‘at first I couldn’t even tell what it was.’ And he said, ‘that just needs to not happen,’” said Cole, ranking member on the House Rules Committee. “He seemed as appalled by it as everybody else.”"


Apparently even his own guys, including his lapdog Pence, were appalled. Considering they think locking up kids at the border is fine, it takes a lot to get them to appalled.

Although there are still loads of Republicans who are right there with Trump, Constitution be damned. Lindsey Graham, for example. He has sunk to the lowest level possible.

 

I never suggested that people shouldn't be permitted to protest or speak their mind. Are we still allowed to give our opinion about what others say, or isn't that allowed anymore?

 

The average German citizen didn't support the Nazis. I don't remember the exact percentage but from what I read previously the number was in the minority of the population. Hitler succeeded because he controlled the institutions that would sustain his power. In the 30s he purged generals from the military that he felt might be disloyal. There was opposition to the Nazis in Germany but those people were dealt with which made standing up to the regime a fatal proposition.

War also eventually became a way for him to further stoke nationalism and stifle dissent.

Even after all that Hitler did to build his power base the failed attempt on his life was initiated through the military.

 

I don't believe that's true, I think most German's DID support Hitler, it was only after things went bad that they all claimed they were against Naziism. I've not read anything that actually supports the idea most average Germans were against it.

They maybe didn't specifically support the idea of murdering people, and maybe not from the beginning, but they eventually supported him and believed in the overall policies up to that. Keep in mind everyone knew about the concentration camps, for example, and most were fine with that. The rounded people up from cities all over Germany, Austria, etc., so it wasn't exactly a secret. It was only the extermination part they later claimed they didn't know about and disagreed with.

https://www.spiegel.de/internationa...tler-won-over-the-german-people-a-531909.html

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Huh. So determined to disagree with someone, whatever the discussion might be, that you end up MAKING EXCUSES FOR NAZIS.

 

Thank you! I felt that was something an educated person ought to know, but I didn't.

 

Thanks. That was so interesting, I wish it had kept going.

 

And just when you thought Trump supporters couldn't possibly get more stupid:

• Diamond and Silk®
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Nancy Pelosi said the WORDS that the President used were racist. But those same words are in the Dictionary. Does that mean that the Dictionary is now racist? Should all Dictionaries be banned since Democrats are offended by words? #TDS


5:47 PM · Jul 17, 2019

 

Good lord.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump
trumps grandfather fled Germany to dodge compulsory military service when sixteen flat broke to be a barber. Instead, he opened restaurants that served alcohol and housed prostitutes. Went back to the country he came from with the fortune he made here. Was immediately booted for dodging service, emigrating illegally, evading taxes and showing loyalty to a foreign country. He swore an oath to Germany but they didn’t believe it and booted him. America STILL allowed to be become a citizen. Trump owes everything he has and will have to illegal immigration.


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Who the hell cares if Trump's grandpappy was an illegal emigrant or not? Should the actions of his grandfather hold President Trump accountable for maintaining a pro-illegal emigrant position? I should think not. This is what happens when people find one common thread between two completely different things and then conflate them.