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2020 election AKA The Biden Thread

Discussion in 'Debaters' started by Morgotha, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    It's Biden's fault. He's the President.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    More violent leftist kooks in Washington took over city hall and spray painted it, etc. protesting the police, Biden, etc. Apparently, Trump wasn't really their issue.

    "One radio reporter said the rioters stole his microphone, spray-painted him, threw hot chocolate on him and tried to take his other equipment, including his iPad. He said the rioters had shouted that he was taking "unauthorized" photos of the protest."


    You know, these people took over a government building, that means they are insurrectionists, right?

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/washingt...ter-homeless-advocate-rioters-storm-city-hall
     
  3. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Why hasn't Biden responded to the ongoing violence in the Pacific Northwest? Why, no one has told him about it, that's why! God forbid the man should read the newspaper or watch t.v. or otherwise do something for himself. I guess you can get away with stuff like that when the media covers for you.

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    White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Friday that she hadn’t spoken with President Biden about unrest in Seattle and Portland.

    "I haven’t spoken with him specifically about those events but it’s something our national security team … the homeland security adviser is closely monitoring, of course," she said when asked for the president's comment on unrest in Seattle and Portland. "

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-press-secretary-biden-riots-seattle-portland
     
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  4. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Remember when Biden called Trump a racist for banning foreigners from China from entering the U.S.? I guess Biden's the racist now for doing exactly the same thing.

    "President Biden this week will impose a ban on most non-U.S. citizens entering the country who have recently been in South Africa in a bid to contain the spread of a new variant of COVID-19, in addition to reimposing an entry ban on nearly all non-U.S. travelers who have been in Brazil, the United Kingdom, Ireland and 26 countries in Europe that allow travel across open borders, White House sources confirmed to Fox News."

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politic...d-travel-ban-for-most-non-u-s-citizens-report
     
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  5. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    One thing Biden's doing right -- copying Trump?

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    WASHINGTON—President Biden will sign an executive order Monday imposing tougher rules on government procurement practices to increase purchases of products made in the U.S., a step toward fulfilling his Buy American campaign pledge to strengthen domestic manufacturing.

    The new policies will include tightening the government procurement rules to make it harder for federal agencies to purchase imported products, revising the definition of American-made products and raising local-content requirements. The executive order also ensures that small and midsize businesses will have better access to information needed to bid for government contracts.

    While their styles are different, Mr. Biden’s Buy American initiative has similarities to Mr. Trump’s domestic preference policy, which was part of his America First policy that featured tariff wars with China and other trading partners."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...government-procurement/ar-BB1d3ZIL?li=BBnb7Kz
     
  6. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Here's an odd coincidence: A couple of special interest groups announced that they have almost all the signatures required to have a recall election for Gov. Newsom of Calif. Today, Gov. Newsom announced that he's partially reopening the state's businesses. Weird, huh?

    "California Gov. Gavin Newsom is expected to lift regional stay-at-home orders in the state on Monday -- allowing for gyms and restaurants to engage in limited outdoor activity, according to a letter to its members from the California Restaurant Association."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...rs-in-the-state-monday/ar-BB1d4LNB?li=BBnb7Kz
     
  7. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Copying or actually doing correctly? I would never copy off the kid failing the class.


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  9. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    And that, friend, is why you'll never succeed in politics.
     
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    DeadZedHead Well-Known Member

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    Ya its been vague. They have enough signatures to submit a petition but i haven’t seen anything suggesting they have enough votes statewide to actually succeed in removing him.


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    This won’t cost 33 million. It wont last years. The point is that they actually did the votes a week and a half ago. Republicans just back tracked to party lines. The evidence needs to be heard by the public. trump has been lying to his own constituents for years and they believed him. They rioted for him. They need to hear him say he never wanted or wants them to riot ever again. His base isn’t going to listen to Biden or the liberal news or traitorous Fox news that no longer blindly parrots trump. Maybe they WILL listen to him.


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    C'mon, man! The "evidence" has ALREADY been heard by the public many times. Now if there's some "secret" reason they're impeaching him that isn't listed in their articles of impeachment I'll walk that back, but I doubt it.

    And Trump doesn't have to show up for the trial, as far as I know, and his lawyers will likely tell him not to. OTOH, maybe he will show up so he can rant a bit, who knows? Actually, I kind of doubt it. I think losing the election took some of the steam out of him.

    Oh, yeah, I doubt they ever had the votes. People, including politicians, say emotional things, but at the end of the day when its time to vote? the Reps aren't going to want their voters to think they caved in to Schumer and Pelosi.
     
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    The evidence that we’ve heard is only what’s available to the public. We don’t know what has yet to be released or uncovered. I agree that many Republicans initially supported it but had to walk it back if they wanted to get re-elected but that doesn’t change the fact that they DID initially support it. If trump doesn’t appear in person, he will still have to submit a written or oral statement. If his entire case is that he did not intend for the protesters to act violently, then he would have to specifically state so. Coming from him carries more weight towards stopping any future acts than democrats telling trump supporters not to act violently.


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  14. purriwinkle

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    There is only one article of impeachment against Trump this second time around.

    House Democrats introduced just one article of impeachment against Trump: “incitement of insurrection.” The president “willfully made statements that encouraged—and foreseeably resulted in—imminent lawless action at the Capitol,” the resolution reads. “Incited by President Trump, a mob unlawfully breached the Capitol, injured law enforcement personnel, menaced Members of Congress and the Vice President, interfered with the Joint Session’s solemn constitutional duty to certify the election results, and engaged in violent, deadly, destructive, and seditious acts.”

    What was the vote to impeach?

    In the end, Trump was impeached by a vote of 232 to 197. All of the House Democrats voted to impeach him, along with the 10 Republicans.

    https://time.com/5928988/donald-trump-impeached-second-time/
     
  15. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    He has said so already in his pre-riot speech he asked for people to:

    "“I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”"

    Nowhere did he say to take over congressional offices, etc. IOW, although people rioted he didn't tell them to, That they did riot is therefore on them.

    Just like with the House vote to impeach, this will be a pretty much party-line vote and he will be found "not guilty".
     
  16. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    OK, "article of impeachment".

    The President told people to march and fight for their rights. That's not insurrection, it's really not. If this IS determined to be insurrection it sets a very bad precedent, as this charge will be brought up in the future quite often - whenever the president and the congress are of different parties.

    All it really is is another waste of money.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Biden just got his first taste of what it means to actually be president and not just complain about one.

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    A federal judge on Tuesday temporarily blocked President Biden’s attempt to put a moratorium on deportations for 100 days.

    After Texas sued over the policy, the judge blocked Biden, via a temporary restraining order, from moving forward for 14 days.

    Texas’ lawsuit claims that the administration would be violating an agreement it has with the Department of Homeland Security – and would require at least 180 days’ notice, as well as consultation, prior to implementing changes in immigration policy. It is unclear whether those terms are enforceable, but similar agreements were struck with several other states under the former administration.

    The U.S. district judge implemented a nationwide injunction because a geographically-limited order would not adequately protect Texas’ interests due to "the free flow of movement" of illegal aliens from other states.

    Fox News exclusively reported over the weekend that an email sent last week to ICE officers called for stopping "all removals" and to "release them [undocumented immigrants] all, immediately.""

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-blocks-biden-deportations
     
  18. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    This is outrageous. 5000 National Guard troops are being kept in the capitol. There is not threat that they are responding to, and no impending thread. There's no reason to keep these soldiers away from their families, and no reason to turn D.C. into an armed camp.

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    EXCLUSIVE: A group of House Republicans are asking the Defense Department to brief them on why it is necessary for the National Guard to remain on Capitol Hill, amid plans to keep them there into March.

    The 12 lawmakers -- including Reps. Michael Waltz, R-Fla.; William Timmons, R-S.C.; Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y.; Chris Stewart, R-Utah, and Lance Gooden, R-Texas -- wrote to acting Army Secretary John Whitley for a briefing on reports that the National Guard will keep a presence of at least 5,000 troops into March."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gop-national-guard-presence-at-capitol
     
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    You mean you haven’t heard about the big thing being planned by Trumpists for March 4?
     
  20. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    March 4th is a month and a half from now. Let these people go home for a month and then bring them back if you're so worried. Or if you REALLY want them to stay, Washington D.C. has some of the country's highest violent crime and murder rates. Why not have them patrol the streets of D.C. instead of sitting around on the taxpayer's dime helping to turn America in to a police state?

    Also, there are actual riots still occurring in the Pacific Northwest as we speak. No national guard is in sight there. If you want to use the Guard to quell violence, why not have them go somewhere where there actually IS violence and help stop it?
     

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