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2020 election AKA The Biden Thread

Discussion in 'Debaters' started by Morgotha, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Ol' Biden is laying the groundwork for cronyism in the government before even being sworn in, he's now asking the justice dept. to go back to the Obama justice dept's practice of giving payouts to 3rd party interest groups rather than the victims of a crime. I suppose this is the first actual attempted reversal of a Trump policy, and if it's an indicator of what's to come, remember: you asked for it.

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    President-elect Joe Biden is calling for the Justice Department to look into reinstating a controversial Obama-era practice that allowed prosecutors to make settlement agreements that resulted in defendants paying outside groups instead of victims or the government.

    The Trump administration had put an end to these payments following a 2017 memo from then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions which was reflected in the Justice Department's manual.

    "When the federal government settles a case against a corporate wrongdoer, any settlement funds should go first to the victims and then to the American people — not to bankroll third-party special interest groups or the political friends of whoever is in power," Sessions said in 2017."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-doj-obama-era-slush-fund-payouts-liberal-groups
     
  2. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Apparently it wasn't just AOC and I that thought a $2000 dollar stimulus check meant $2000 and not $1400 dollars. The new Georgia senators felt the same.

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    Georgia Democrats have reportedly already begun fuming over their two new senators, the Rev. Raphael Warnock and Jon Ossoff, who were sworn in Wednesday by Vice President Kamala Harris, according to a new report.

    Both men narrowly won hard-fought races against Republican incumbents in the Peach State, winning control of the Senate for the Democrats in the process.

    But a major issue raised by critics is that President Biden espoused a coronavirus relief plan that would send $1,400 checks to many Americans – while Warnock and Ossoff campaigned on a $2,000 promise.

    "Warnock and Ossoff made it a point to endorse and exclusively say ‘$2,000 checks,’" Georgia Democrat Oscar Zaro told Mediaite. "A lot of the people in my district voted blue in the runoff for two main reasons. One: Loeffler and Perdue denying us relief during COVID while profiting millions themselves; and two, $2,000 checks.""

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-democrats-2000-checks-1400
     
  3. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Biden has removed Winston Churchill's bust for the Oval Office. So much for sending a message of cooperation with our allies.

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    President Biden has removed the bust of former U.K. Prime Minister Winston Churchill from display in the Oval Office -- tapping back into an Obama-era controversy over the bust.

    The Washington Post, as part of a tour of the new design of the famous room, reported that Biden "does not have the bust on display." However, other busts, including labor leader Cesar Chavez and Martin Luther King Jr., are on display.

    British Prime Minister Tony Blair had loaned President George W. Bush a bust of the British wartime leader in 2001. Former President Barack Obama had caused controversy by removing it when he entered office in 2009, and it was viewed by critics as a snub of the U.S.-U.K. alliance -- although his White House noted that there was still a Churchill bust elsewhere in the building.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-churchill-bust-oval-office
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I can't say I'm proud of Amazon. As soon as Biden is in office Bezos offers to help distribute vaccines? So, what, American lives mean jack to him when Trump was in office but now are important? I sincerely hope Biden's people say, "thanks but no thanks". If Trump's people could distribute the vaccine without him, he isn't needed now.

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    Amazon offering to help distribute the coronavirus vaccine just hours after President Trump left the White House was "disgraceful," Fox News medical contributor Dr. Marc Siegel said on Thursday.

    "When it comes to Amazon, you've got to scratch your head and say, first of all, I think everybody watching us knows there was a personal feud going on between Jeff Bezos and President Trump. Well, excuse me. That should not get in the way of public health," Siegel told "Fox & Friends.""

    https://www.foxnews.com/health/amazon-delayed-help-distribute-coronavirus-vaccines-siegel
     
  5. Jama

    Jama Well-Known Member

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    Let's not even go into the fact that Bezos' wealth skyrocketed to the point that he became the richest person on the planet because of this pandemic. I'm not saying that, that in it of itself is a bad thing, but stuff like this makes me wonder about him.
     
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    Every president has redecorated the oval office. Including changing the images of prominent figures on display. This didn’t come off as some petty statement. Trump removed portraits of Clinton and Bush after they criticized him and refused to authorize the unveiling of Obamas portrait.


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    Well, trump waged an all out war with him in the media, on the news and anytime he had a crowd to speak to. Why would Bezos think trump would have cooperated with him on anything. Bezos has someone who might be willing to accept his offer. I think vaccination shelf life is hurting us more than distribution at this point. They need to figure that out first.


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  8. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    The point is he's making a statement. Out with Winston Churchill, in with Cesar Chavez and MLK.

    LOL, I'd bet Biden doesn't remember Chavez that well, because if he DID he'd remember Chavez wanted to STOP illegal aliens from coming across the border. Chavez said there was no way to give his people 4 dollars an hour when there was an infinite supply of illegals willing to work for 1. (the numbers are just made up, btw, I remember the sentiment, not the actual number). In any event, Chavez and "open borders" Biden see illegals differently.

    LOL, of course the REALLY funny part would be if Biden DOES remember Chavez and is signalling he's going to try and stop illegals from coming in to the country. That would be funny.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    The point being Bezos would have looked like a great guy if he made this offer months ago, now he looks like a tool.
     
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    It wasn't just Bezos:

    https://www.theguardian.com/technol...es-reap-400bn-boost-to-wealth-during-pandemic

    In fairness though, at least part of the reason Trump went after the Post Office is he wanted them to start sticking it to Amazon (specifically) for shipping costs, and they wouldn't. If I was Bezos I wouldn't have offered to help him either.
     
  11. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Biden's really hitting the ground running:

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    The executive order signed by Biden, the third of 17 that he signed on his first day in office, will formally recommit the U.S. to the global agreement in 30 days, ending the U.S. status as the only country in the world not participating in the deal.

    He also put forth an order that revoked a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline that allowed it to cross the U.S.-Canada border and also carried out other environmental actions."


    The union guys say 1000 jobs are going out the window for the Keystone pipeline - and probably 10x that will lose income because of it. The Paris Accord? I can't wait to start paying China to clean up China. I guess that's the Democratic party in a nutshell: take away jobs from working people and waste money we don't have on pointless things. Welp, you voted for him.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...oves-on-paris-keystone/ar-BB1cYkKO?li=BBnb7Kz
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    But it wasn't to help Trump, it was to help the American people - you know, the ones who were his customers?
     
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    What does any of that have to do with what I'm talking about?

    Besides, I doubt that Bezos was even remotely concerned with whether or not Trump was willing to cooperate with him or not. I honestly don't even thin that was a thing. Period.

    I think the real headline here, is that Bezos didn't want to cooperate with Trump, simply because that would have put him on a list of some kind. The kind of list where banks tell him to find another place to store his cash or other companies decide to stop doing business with him because he decided to work with Trump or left wing ideologues start to threaten his shareholders and pressure them to distance themselves from him. That would have been a huge punch to the gut of his bottom line. That's a far more realistic theory as to why he did what he did.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Buttigieg decided to be more honest on his first day than most, suggesting he'll be for a new gas tax. Talk about a regressive tax! Get ready for a vehicle usage tax as well so that people who drive electric cars can be taxed as well.

    "Well, I think all options need to be on the table," Buttigieg said. "As you know, the gas tax has not been increased since 1993, and it's never been pegged to inflation. And it's one of the reasons why the current state of the Highway Trust Fund is that there's more going out than coming in.""

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/buttigieg-gas-tax-transportation-secretary-hearing
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    You know, you might be right. He might not have cared at all, but didn't want his company to get "cancelled" by the left. I could believe that.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Biden isn't content to kill babies in this country, he wants make sure our money is spent killing babies in other countries as well. LOL, he should hire Cuomo as his Minister of Health.

    "Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci announced Thursday that President Biden will roll back a Trump-era policy that banned taxpayers' dollars from going to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information."

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fa...xpayer-dollars-to-overseas-abortion-providers
     
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    Jama Well-Known Member

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    He's going to be absolutely horrible for this country. He was an effete mayor who talked a good game, but didn't deliver on much. He'll be the same in whatever future government posts he happens to hold.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    "
    President Biden, in an executive order aimed at "preventing and combating discrimination on the basis of gender identity or sexual orientation," is calling on schools across the country to allow transgender athletes to participate in the sport of their gender identity.

    "Children should be able to learn without worrying about whether they will be denied access to the restroom, the locker room, or school sports," reads the new order, released on the first day of his presidency.

    The order is a strong signal that the Justice Department is going to enforce it via Title IX -- and schools that don’t comply risk losing funding. "


    You know, of all the "serious" things Biden is doing, I've got to say this really p1sses me off. Girls' sports are to help girls have fun, develop skills, teamwork, and get scholarships to college. I can't believe that the Federal government is going to officially allow male athletes to compete against them if they happen to "feel like a woman" that day.:(
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    That would be better, IMO, than if he's effective in his socialist pursuits.;)
     
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    Jama Well-Known Member

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    Well you bring up a good point actually... He's probably going to be more more effective in his more socialist/progressive pursuits simply because a large enough portion of his party has unwittingly shifted in that direction as well. Additionally, being that he's a member of the Cabinet, he's going to have a much more comfortable barrier between him and his opposition or with the general public, compared to when he was a mayor. If we, the people dislike his policies, directives, etc., THAT buck is really going to stop with Biden, not with him. Or with Biden's stunt double when they finally hook Joe up to a machine. Poor old guy. ;)
     
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