I'll respond. We've had almost 4 years of Trump in office to see what his followers "probably" believe. Do you always pay such close attention and demand facts & evidence when people speak? Or do you only use that to turn the tables on someone who disagrees with you?

 

Yes. And it's great to have you back, Jen.

 

"prob·a·bly
/ˈpräbəblē,ˈpräblē/
adverb

1. almost certainly; as far as one knows or can tell."

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This leaves room for error. "Probably" means that it's probable based on behavior we've seen.

Do I think all of his supporters believe this? No way. I think there is a level of being fed up that many of us have reached in order to make these types of statements.

 

Right.... People are calling out a very small portion of people who believe in this ridiculous conspiracy theory and scaling that up to "probably" most of Trump's supporters. That in it of itself is another conspiracy theory, am I wrong?

 

Also, do you think that my asking him those questions are illegitimate simply because you think that I'm being a contrarian?

Because I argue that I'm not the latter. If people routinely make ambiguous, generalized blanket statements about something, why is it out of bounds for me to scrutinize and question what they are espousing?

 

I would normally agree, but i think a global pandemic and other issues like climate change is where that ends.

 

Everything you said is true true but that would assume Trump was a reasonable, thoughtful and mature individual which he has proven time and again that he is not. He also doesn’t fully grasp his job description when it comes to being the leader for “all” Americans. If he didn’t understand the science he could have researched the basics but most journal articles don’t come out in comic book format. Unfortunately he doesn’t listen to his experts either.....unless they’re in the habit of kissing his ass.

When it comes to following the latest scientific recommendations, people are going to have to decide to abide by the guidelines no matter what side of the aisle they fall on if we’re going to get through this.

I actually feel sorry for those who follow Trump blindly like every utterance out of his mouth is a missive from heaven. I don’t know what to say about those who know better but continue to support him anyways.

 

Here’s an interesting article about QAnon and how it works by NBC news. You’d think something this nutty wouldn’t have any traction but I don’t know.....

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/qanon-looms-behind-nationwide-rallies-viral-hashtags-n1237722

 

Both sides use insults, i guess mine are just more subtle than hanging a naked brunette Barbie by the neck from their giant pickup truck (Michigan conservatives and their insults on Whitmer). I see that in my hometown as i drive around with my 6 year-old daughter, American flags a-wavin' as if there is any connection to being a patriot and that type of behavior.

That's true (your second paragraph), I was in disbelief that he was even a contender for US President, however, I have become increasingly fed up as people continue to support him despite everything.

 

That's the most frustrating part... he had so many opportunities. I was even happy when he (seemed to) start to take Covid seriously. I thought, finally, maybe there will be some unity in this. Of course that didn't last long before more damaging things flew out of his mouth.

I wish everyone had their own mind and could have low expectations for him like you do, but there are people who literally seem to worship him and take his word as gospel. If it didn't affect so many of us i would tune it out and move on with my life, but it's scary when it involves things like a deadly virus and the quality of air our kids will grow up in.

 

Yes, that's the crux of it. This didn't need to be political. It's a pandemic, so you should follow what the medical professionals advise.

Now thousands of people have died because of it.

I think the mask issue stems from his pathology of building up his own fantasy world. It started right at the beginning with the crowd size for the inaugural. Then they pretended they didn't inherit a good economy from Obama. The soldiers from the Iran missile attack weren't harmed they said. Then they said it was just "headaches." But dozens had brain injuries. This is just three things, but the list is endless.

These are all lies but you don't have to stare them in the face. You can talk around it with more lies, but when someone is there with a mask it punctures the veneer of his fantasy world. That's why he's actually even telling people to take their masks off during appearances etc. Reality has always been his greatest enemy.

Ideally Trump would live a long life and suffer the pain and humliation of his actions every single day. But that will never happen, because once he's gone he'll just build another psychotic fantasy to explain what occurred, election fraud, deep state etc.

 

The woman who won the Republican primary for the Senate in Delaware is a QAnon supporter too. There's a picture in the piece of her wearing a QAnon shirt.

https://www.businessinsider.com/qan...n-nomination-for-us-senate-in-delaware-2020-9

I'm sure it was an honest mistake though.I always have to make sure I don't go out with my Q T shirt, or my Confederate flag one.

She also had repeatedly tweeted the QAnon slogan WWG1WGA. I'm sure that's nothing too though. I often tweet those letters out randomly. It can happen.

Everything is fine. Nothing to see here.

 

I need to be careful about how I represent myself here.... For the record, I do not support or condone believe in any of this Qanon garbage.

But regardless of that, I've gotta know... how are these jokers on the Republican side any worse than the people on the Democrat side who are supporting rioters/looters, publicly spewing anti-semitic rhetoric and espousing communist and marxist ideology?

I'm not trying to deflect or anything though... The Qanon freaks have got to go. But we should all collectively acknowledge that there are people on the fringe of society with dangerous ideas and they are on both sides of the political spectrum. Us "normals" should really stand together and draw a line in the sand with ALL of these nuts. Not just with the right wing ones exclusively.