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2020 election AKA The Biden Thread

Discussion in 'Debaters' started by Morgotha, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. purriwinkle

    purriwinkle Well-Known Member

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    The conclusion of the video was that the governors would most likely appoint senators to fill the gap. As there are more democratic governors having to do this it would go to
     
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    Thanks!
     
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    I think the spot that asks what kind of American are you? will backfire with Trump supporters when it says Trump is the man he has always been, because that just reinforces their belief that he has been and thus continues to be admirable.

    The one that ends with Unfit, Unwell, Unacceptable is terrific. There's the camera angle to refute his lie that he was being sarcastic and aiming his disinfectant and light questions at a reporter. I don't know if the shot of the doctor is intercut, but it is the truth of what happened.
     
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  5. purriwinkle

    purriwinkle Well-Known Member

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    What did you think of the ad they created for Biden?
     
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    Wow. He looked so good, I cheered up. lol
     
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    PepperAnn Well-Known Member

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    Nope refused to listen no matter what @Jama calls me. :p Thank you for telling me. LMAO
     
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    I believe Justin Amash is now running for President.
    He was a Republican who turned independent, from Michigan.
    Editing to say that he’s running under the Libertine Party.

    The truth is out there
     
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  9. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Never heard of him. There's no way he'll win, I suppose the goal is to try and siphon off a few of Trump's voters increasing Biden's chances.
     
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    Jama Well-Known Member

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    Maybe this is the one issue that will finally bring Democrats and Republicans together.....

    No one gives a shit about Justin Amash running for President. lololol
     
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  11. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Here's an odd one. The New York Times wants the Democratic National Committee to be the ones doing an "impartial" investigation of Biden's (alleged) sex crimes. Pretty brassy considering how the media asked for Justice Kavanaugh's head.

    Did Biden do what he's accused of? His sexual assault of Mrs. Reade seems to have occurred several years after his 7 month leave of absence from the Senate for his cerebral aneurysm repair, could it be that he wasn't running on all cylinders at the time? Who knows? In any event, I don't think the Democratic National Committee should be the one doing the "impartial" investigation of it.

    "In 2018, this board advocated strongly for a vigorous inquiry into accusations of sexual misconduct raised against Brett Kavanaugh when he was nominated to a seat on the Supreme Court. Mr. Biden’s pursuit of the presidency requires no less. His campaign, and his party, have a duty to assure the public that the accusations are being taken seriously. The Democratic National Committee should move to investigate the matter swiftly and thoroughly, with the full cooperation of the Biden campaign."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/opinion/biden-tara-reade.html
     
  12. Jama

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    There's really no way to know if he did something like that to her or not. We'll never know. But there's a lot of other things about this story that are worth noting. Like the whole "believe all women" narrative. Are we going to do that? Or are we going to only believe all women if the man also happens to be a conservative judge or politician.... and then choose to look the other way if the man is a Democrat who is running against Donald Trump?

    The same people who clutched their pearls over Trump stating "grab em by the pussy" are the same people who are looking the other way on an issue where Biden might have actually grabbed a victim by the pussy. How disgustingly ironic.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Nope, we'll never really know. The hypocrisy in how this is being treated is compared with Kavanaugh is outrageous, though.

    It's too bad that a real woman was assaulted and victimized. If that wasn't the case it would be good political theater.

    Actually, the person I bet is enjoying the circus the most is Pence. Here the media were giving him a hard time for refusing to be alone with a woman other than his wife, and lauded Gropey Joe for being a classical hand-shaking, baby kissing politician. Now that the downside of sniffing hair has become apparent, Pence gets to sleep easily knowing he doesn't have to worry about a thing.
     
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  14. Jama

    Jama Well-Known Member

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    And think about the incredible wisdom that Pence has in taking that position on how he chooses to conduct personal business by making sure he's not alone with another woman.

    He was relentlessly ridiculed and chided for that and it was another case being made against him and was framed as an example of his "religious zealotry"....

    Then 2 years later, it's #metoo time and all this outrage happens, some of it phony outrage from the Hollywood elite (knowing what they knew all of these years) and supposedly women we were going to put a stop to sexual abuse and stop the people in power who were getting away with it.

    Meanwhile, there's Pence doing nothing wrong. Doing right by his wife. Leaving no room for doubt about his integrity when it comes to his conduct with women.

    No apologies have yet been issued to him for all of the criticism that he received over doing something that actually kept himself, his family and other people protected. He's avoiding the possibility of temptation to abuse his power. He's avoiding the possibility of him being potentially slandered because of his position of power.

    I laugh about the fact that the media even made this an issue in the first place.
     
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  15. Jama

    Jama Well-Known Member

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    This Tweet lends credence to the assertion that I made above. Actually this Tweet is something far worse than what I was even suggesting. This #metoo attorney is actually acknowledging the veracity of Reade's claims and yet she admittedly decides to look the other way regardless. I guess for the "greater good" or whatever hypocritical rationale she has.


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    Someone posted this on her feed. Pretty much sums up the truth behind all of the excuses and lies being told right now. Quite funny. lol
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  16. purriwinkle

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    Not every woman who makes an allegation of sexual abuse/assault is telling the truth just like not all men are automatically guilty because they have been accused. That’s not the climate we live in though. Right now, in an effort to course correct for decades of dragging women’s reputations through the mud when an accusation was made, the pendulum might be swinging too far in the other direction.

    In the case of Donald Trump, we heard him say the words that he grabbed women by the pussy, etc etc. right out of his goddamn mouth. Then, take payments to porn stars, etc. and one might connect the dots that there could be some credibility to claims by women of sexual assault.

    In the case of Brett Kavanaugh, the alleged incident in question happened in the presence of other witnesses. A frat party with other young men involved. There were others that were willing to testify to his somewhat seedy behavior and character. Maybe some credibility.

    With Biden, you have your classic he said, she said. As far as I know there are no other witnesses to the alleged incident. Most will testify to Biden’s life long work on behalf of women. That’s neither here nor there.

    I do find the timing of such allegations, in general, lining up with someone striving to acquire a position of power to be highly charged, and that’s the point isn’t it?

    This is what Ms. Ford said:

    “my motivation in coming forward was to provide the facts about how Mr. Kavanaugh’s actions have damaged my life, so that you can take that into serious consideration as you make your decision about how to proceed.”

    Perhaps that is Ms. Reade’s as well. She threw it out there now. People will have to decide for themselves whether they believe in it’s credibility. Then they’ll look at the big picture. If people think the bigger picture is to get Trump out of office they most likely will not believe her whether or not they say those words, or they will it but they won’t change their minds when it comes to voting for Biden.

    In Kavanaugh’s case the bigger picture was to seat another conservative Supreme Court justice so even though many thought Ms. Ford’s allegations were credible it didn’t alter the way they voted.

    This is our political reality now. I can’t imagine that even the Republicans will harp on this much considering it will cause the allegations against the President to be dredged up once again by the opposition. Gee, one self avowed crotch snatcher running against another possible crotch snatcher. Precious.

    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-enco...ns-are-false-i-guess-you-could-say-im-1501551
     
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  17. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    That's pretty pathetic. I hope she's ashamed of herself.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    His "pussy" quote doesn't bother me. I saw the video of it and someone surreptitiously recorded him when he was walking with a couple of other men he looked like he wanted to impress. It sounded like some braggart just talking out of his ass to me, and not like something he really did.

    Nope. The main alleged incident (Ford's) was from when he was in *high school* and NO ONE that was there remembered anything happening. Not even Ford's friend. And she never told anyone what she claimed happened, as opposed to Reade who apparently told multiple people about having something happen to her.

    Well, there's one difference, and it's a big one. Ford was a Democrat who works at a "women's rights" college and will be lauded by the staff and student body there for her testimony against the conservative Kavanaugh. Reade is a Democrat, like Biden, and *no one* will be giving her accolades for trying to tarnish their boy.

    It sounds like you've just given up. That's too bad. No changes for the better are made when people quit caring and trying to change the system.
     
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    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Biden's VP candidate pool is shrinking down markedly.

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    Biden launched a committee last week to begin vetting possible candidates for the vice presidency, a process he has said will likely last through July. He has already committed to picking a woman.


    But black voters and leaders say he needs to go further and pick a black woman. They argue that Biden's success — and that of the Democratic Party as a whole — depends on black people turning out to vote in November. They want a tangible return for their loyalty, not just a thank you for showing up on Election Day."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elec...an-as-his-running-mate/ar-BB13Biab?li=BBnb7Kz
     
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    Shocks me that his pussy comment didn't bother you. Serious or not, it's repulsive. And I like having my pussy grabbed. :p
     
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