Dont you make a difference between fiction and reality ? Nobody dies in the show, its all fake. IRL guns kill people.
Watching TWD doesnt make me a violent man or a gun worshiper, I watch it because I like zombies and survival stories.

 

Pretty much. Alexander Hamilton did write in favor of having an armed citizenry. But he also quoted Article 1, Section 8: "reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress".

One cannot act like on one's own accord in the military. There is a chain of command that goes all the way up to the Oval Office.

To give an extreme example, my late brother-in-law was from Switzerland, and he told me that in that country people were required by law to keep a firearm in their homes, but they were also forbidden to use it for non-military purposes, even for self-defense.

 

Yes. In real life, guns are capable of killing people. Somewhere between 8 and 12 thousand times a year depending on where you get your numbers from and what you include.

Know how often guns are used for defense? The lower sets of numbers I could find the last time I checked was something like 125,000 times a year. The Clinton administration did a study (and they were HARDLY a pro-gun administration) and estimated that number was closer to 900,000.

we can go down the line and each side can raise some valid points. Yes, most countries which banned guns have less gun murders, but then again, those same countries had similarly low rates BEFORE banning guns, so it's hard to say they made all that much of a difference. Also, during a period of a few years following the Aussie gun ban, their homicide rate went down 30 percent. However, during the same period in the US, it went down exactly the same percentage. The difference is, while violent crime was steadily declining in the US, it INCREASED in Australia. In fact, assaults were up 80 percent following the ban. EIGHTY.

no thank you very much.

 

You misunderstand why I asked the question. I'm not against guns or gun ownership, I've already posted that I shoot and occasionally hunt I simply asked the question because I have no idea how many people are killed or injured each year in the States or how those statistics compared with comparable societies.

Edit to add... The show is is just a show, it's make believe entertainment, I enjoy Dr Who, but that's not real either.

 

Yes, it's a constitutional right to own automatic firearms, there are plenty of people in America that legally own machine guns.

 

Liberals and gun grabbers have one thing always in common, they never let facts stand in the way of their opinions.

 

I'm glad you're on the right side of the issue.

However, anybody who is watching The Walking Dead and is anti-gun and tries to justify their hypocrisy is no different than being anti-pornography and subscribing to Playboy and trying to tell me you get it for the articles. The Walking Dead is 60 minutes of gun porn.

 

Does this right apply only to keeping automatic firearms in one's home, or does it extend to bearing such weapons in public?

 

In some states open carry of NFA or Title II firearms (machine guns, short barrelled firearms, silenced fireams) is no different no more restricted than a title 1 firearm (hand gun, rifle, shotgun, semi-automatics).

In some states like Kalifornia and New Pork, where they continually want to regulate every facet, every minutia of every citizen's life from automatic weapons, to semi-automatic weapons down to the size of the soda you can buy an how much butter can be sold on your pop corn in the movie theater... you better check twice.

 

Nice try. But I didn't ask you about existing gun control regulations. I asked you if you believe that you have a constitutional right to bear automatic weapons in public.

 

Nice try for what? You think you're catching on something? What the hell are you talking about 'nice try'?

Of course I do. And I can.

 

Go back and re-read my post. I didn't ask about laws, I asked about rights. It's been my experience that most people who call refer to themselves as pro-second amendment usually try to avoid answering the question about whether it is constitutional to own automatic weapons. They believe they have that right but are reluctant to say so openly. And they are even more reluctant to name any weapons that can be banned under the second amendment.

 

The majority of states allow open carry. Concealed carry generally requires a permit.

Guns all over where I live but it is pretty safe so guns aren't a threat. We'd be pretty devastating in a ZA.

 

This is possibly the dumbest statement of the debate so far. You are one of those people that most pro gun advocates are probably embarrassed to have on their side. This is like saying that anyone who watches The Walking Dead is a hypocrite if they admit that zombies would be bad for the world. Or they are hypocrites if they watch TWD yet feel that near starvation and eating long expired foods is dangerous

I saw you mention earlier that anti-gun nuts are embarrassing and have no logic. This is sometimes true. And its also sometimes true that pro-gun nuts are embarrassing and have no logic. And this post proves you yourself sometimes fall into that category. I'm not anti-gun, but if I was, I'd be glad to have you arguing against me, embarrassing my opposition.

 

Yeah...you're an embarrassment for your cause.

 

The people I choose to hang with are not as quick to insult others as you are, so I think I'm good here.

 

I'm watching a show about the zombie apocalypse, and guns just happen to be a part of it. Just like when I read the comics, and a certain character was brutally raped. That doesn't make me a supporter of rape, nor does it make me a hypocrite for not supporting rape.

 

Dude, I could care less about the guns. No, I haven't noticed, because I have no fascination with guns. I have been around them my entire life, I'm from Texas. Even being around them, I have never used one myself, nor do I care to really. I'm not anti-gun, I'm just not a gun advocate or a person who feels so threatened that they constantly feel the need to defend guns and gun laws.

There are also shipping threads, and I don't go to those either because I really have no interest in shipping. It's all about how you watch the show and what you take away from it. You can't lump everyone together or say that just because you watch the show but may not like guns that makes you a hypocrite.

 

Great. So why are you responding to a subject and quoting directly

Which obviously wasn't directed at you, nor has anything to do with you? See the part that says "promoting exactly what you're against".

And yes I can definitely say" You can't lump everyone together or say that just because you watch the show but may not like guns that makes you a hypocrite."

It's not a matter or liking or not liking guns, guns aren't a ice cream flavor you like or don't like. The issue is not liking or not liking it's about banning or not banning firearms. Go back up and re-read the thread and what the issue is. Everything you're responding about to is based on a much more serious subject not just a matter of liking something or not.

Anyone who believes firearms should be banned, is a gun grabber and if you're a gun grabber you're a hypocrite when you support the gun industry and the gun culture by buying movie tickets to movies like Rambo or watch shows on TV like The Walking Dead which are all very pro gun, pro gun culture and are promoting guns in a positive and glorifying way which is exactly the opposite of what a gun grabber believes.

If you're not a gun grabber you're not part of this issue.

 

Actually, I did get the typical response. Your first response didn't answer the question I asked, although in this case it was a lack of reading comprehension on your part.