I like that idea a lot. I'm guessing Yes to the Negan part, and No to Ben's father still being alive, because Ezekiel is so fully committed to being responsible for Ben. Maybe I will think Yes to both parts when I have seen the promo.

 

That's possible... maybe Negan has multiple prisoners from different camps in order to give him the upper hand in negotiating with the different camps beyond the threat of death by Lucille but the threat of death by Lucilling a loved one?

 

Yes, either a victim or prisoner. Im guessing prisoner, since we are supposed to feel invested in Ben and his story may still have more to come, emotionally.

 

VERY likely!!! Also, I feel better that he would have taken Daryl no matter what.

 

@Ricky Grimes

Yeah I think you're definitely on to something. I never would've looked at it that way even though it was right in front of my face.

Rick still gave him (Negan) that "damn look" and the threat of cutting off Carl's limb may not have been enough after time to prevent Rick from being Rick and seeking to avenge the murders of Abraham and Glenn (although in reality Negan was merely doing the same thing, avenging the murders of his people).

Having Daryl who Negan clearly sees means alot to the group assures he has and keeps the upper hand as long as Daryl is alive so it's likely the other prisoners are important to their respective camps as well and no one would want to be responsible for a captured member being Lucilled... unles you're the Governor.

 

Its possible, and a great thought, although Ben said 8 people died in the building they were trying to clear when his father died. So that would mean Negan killed and/or captured a total of 8 people, to make the story fit. That means Ezekiel's group must have been REALLY naughty when they met Negan. Look how much trouble OUR group caused Negan, yet still only two killed, and one captured. Of course its also possible that some of the 8 really did die by accident [walkers], and THEN Negan killed/captured the rest. You may turn out to be right, but my guess is that Ben's story will just turn out to be what he said it was.

 

It's a great possibility. Ben said his father was the best fighter in the Kingdom. If he truly was, Negan may have taken an interest in him. I could see Ezekiel lying about what really happened.

 

This thought is what makes me thing that's entirely possible.

#1 as already said, Ezekiel is totally a protector of Ben and I can see him hiding the truth from him.
#2 if his father was such a good fighter...I found it fishy that he was killed by walkers. I mean, I know they are still a threat, but Rick and co have gotten out of some pretty sticky situations with walkers....why just them?

 

That is a great theory and completely possible. I feel like there is a bigger story to Ben rather than just a line stated for the scene.

 

Agree - a possibility esp. as Ben is being built up as the Aikido Morgan version to Rick's Gunslinger Carl re: future vengeance.
@zombiemom I think mentioned in another thread while discussing Ezekiel keeping Negan at arm's length from his people, that maybe he is protecting Ben from the truth about his father's fate. And it maaaaay come out that was a Saviour duel gone bad. They seemed to have walkers pretty much under control.

 

I'm not so sure about this. Possible I suppose, but why can't Ben just be orphaned by the ZA and Ezekiel has taken a liking to him? However, I did notice in the promo that Dwight seems to take a very strong interest in a particular Walker impaled in the Sanctuary yard. If RickyGrimes is correct, I wonder if this walker is a link to Ben somehow?

 

I'm not sure about this either, but I think it's a great idea! They do seem to be going out of their way to compare/contrast the two camps. Naming the episodes The Well and The Cell seems more than a coincidence to me. They seem very much the direct opposites--one the benign dictatorship, the other the exact opposite. I do hope they have put some time and attention into linking the two camps and Ben's father would seem to be a great opportunity to do that.

 

It is possible that Ezekiel turned Ben's father over and is guilted out about it. I am sure there is more to the story or it would not have been introduced and left so cryptic. My guess is he is one of the two guys herding Zombie's in the fence at the prison because they were shown so many times. Maybe both from the Kingdom.

 

Morgan should have asked, "If he was such a good fighter why is he dead".