The best thing about this episode (and FTWD itself) is that walkers are still a threat.

 

At least they finally moved the plot forward somewhat. We now know what happened at the stadium.

The vultures are dead.

 

I thought we made some progress in this episode. We're getting closer to seeing what happens to Madison. I didn't see TTD so I don't know what the preview was for next week, but in the episode preview at the end of E07 it looks like she makes it out of the stadium.
I thought it was stupid how Nick et al stopped their landrover outside the stadium and waited to be swarmed by walkers. But is does show how they will survive the stadium being overrun and end up on their own with Strand when they come across Morgan, Al and John and why they're hunting the Vultures so hard. I also think that kid is still up to no good. She's in the stadium, but ends up back with the Vultures.

 

I took it to be that they are all dead. The way I read the scene was all the remaining vultures met up at the race track and since the shooting stopped when Al took off, they were all dead.

I assume some died during the attack on the stadium and we will see that in the final flashback in 408.

 

Yes! Best thing about that episode!!

 

I had the same reaction to the preview that you did, my takeaway was that Madison survived. There was a scene of her in the daylight, and what went down at the stadium was at night. Although it could be some other form of flashback.

Colman Domingo was on Talking Dead and the way he discussed the midseason finale made it appear as if something really bad happens in the episode. So my feeling that Madison survive was tempered a little bit by that.

Either way they've done a very good job of keeping her fate in doubt until the final episode. At this point I'll only be upset if they don't reveal what happened before the first half ends.

 

That was left in the open a bit. With the way it was filmed it "felt" as if a few might have gotten away. Guessing that with the death of both of their leaders that we won't see them again. Mel's demise effectively ends the whole Vulture story. Their motivations could have been fleshed out a bit better though. Maybe we'll get that in the finale, but some of their actions just don't add up.

 

Agreed. For example, the casual way Ennis acted when confronted by Nick. I mean Ennis unloaded 300 or so walkers on their home. Wouldn't Ennis' immediate reaction be to defend himself or shoot at Nick?

 

I have this sick suspicion that we WONT see the outcome in the MSF. The entire theme of this Season is going to be the back and forth and we will not know one way or another if Madison is alive or dead until the Finale. I hope i am wrong, i really do. But next weeks scenes makes me feel they are going to end it on a cliffhanger. And that being we won't know Madison's fate other then what transpired in flashbacks through the others' eyes and perception.

 

I read on Twitter just 10 minutes ago that "all our questions will be answered in the MSF".... we'll see about that!

 

Ennis bothers me the most. If he saw Nick he should have been ready to fight. It'd be as if the Governor ran into Michonne in Season 4 of TWD and was like, "Hey how's it going, I'm just going to go inside here and pack up these supplies, you run along now."

 

Alicia blowing up the ambulance. And that was a 3 second part, so the rest was just blah blah bs. Trying to get viewers invested in a community that has fallen is pointless, watching what happend to dead people is pointless, and its jumbled up with its own storyline.... realllllllly bad (atleast for people with eyes and ears)