thats true

 

First of all I have had 2 bases and a shelter hit in two days cleaned me out completely. the one base was hit 2 days in a row. So I don't think making bases easier to raid is the answer.
But how about an inactivity despawn timer so if no one gets in the vehicle for say 1 to 2 hours then it despawns and goes back to it's original spawn. (maybe less time).
Or put a block around tamped bases so you can't drive a vehicle in.

 

Need throwable ied's (grenades) and this wont be a problem, i believe one spawns when one dissappears, unless blowing up an ied under a base will damage a car

 

The car hoarding is probably hackers since they are lazy they just use the car to get to people's place and bust it all up and runs off with the car and hide them

 

Personally I don't mind the car hoarding as long as the spawns aren't so rare that you have to spend days on end finding one - especially in PvP since they're easy enough to destroy.

I recall seeing a picture of someone who had 30 in 1 "super-base" ... that took a lot of effort and commitment. If there was only 25 spawns (youtube pic of a guy who marked a map where he found cars) and this pic had 30 cars - it stands to reason that the spawn makes the cars whether or not the originally taken one is "alive" or "destroyed" already.

 

well if you don't mind the car hording then on my server you must be one of the hoarders I have been looking for a car for a week now. there is a big base full of Koreans (i know cause i talked to them) and as i watched at least 3 cars left the ground fort i think the inactivity timer would work best. So if you want to keep your car you will have to keep busy. grounds bases don't scare me i have made over 100 ethanol in 2 days. when i do blow the door off I am not taking one just gonna blow them all up so everyone gets a chance to get one. Whats wrong starting your day off hunting for a car? At least you know one will be out there right now you spend hours searching and there are no cars out there because they are being horded.

 

Depends on what server you're on... I play on only 2 right now, one PvP (Winchester) and one PvE (Redmoon) - honestly, if there are only 25 car spawn points, and someone has 30 cars and had a pic to prove it - it means cars will respawn whether or not the one that spawned at any given location is still out there in the world.

If anything, it might be more of a problem with how often the vehicle spawns at these locations at any given time. If they spawn there once every 7 days, then yeah, with a couple hundred people on, the chances of finding one are bleak.

Have the re-spawn interval timers for vehicles ever been disclosed by the devs?

The only way a "inactivity" timer for a vehicle would work is maybe if it was inactive for 24 hours. People have lives, jobs, careers, families, etc and cannot always be on just to hop in the car if they're flying solo - then again, the majority of people are mad about hoarding 5-6 vehicles at a time so maybe that'd be irrelevant anyway. Most hoarders are large groups working together obviously. One person is more than likely not hoarding a ton of them solo. The inactivity timer would be pointless since someone would always be on in the group that was hoarding them.

 

Yes they should implement an additional rule set, more so on PVE servers to prevent hoarding...

Due to the Nature of PVP play, ownership of vehicles can be measured quite literally in minutes or hours...

This does not happen on PVE servers.

An additional system needs to be in place...

Put vehicles on short spawn timers, make them earnable through play just as the 2000 slot backpacks are through the quest note system.

Implement a key system, you can only have 1 key and if you do not use your vehicle within 12 hours it despawns, your key is gone.

If you die, the car despawns, ownership ends...

Randomize spawn locations for the quest and create no build zones around them...

System is already in place, just need the keys now...

 

Your keys need to be at least 24 hours. I think I mentioned this already - some people have careers and families to attend to.

1 full day, I'm totally with you on.

 

I do not mind that, 24hrs seems fair enough... I am opposed to anything longer than that...

I guess it depends on how the loot system ticks work...

 

Don't forget about the people who place items in the spawn locations to prevent vehicles from respawning.

 

Bases are pretty easy to raid, takes like 10 minutes doing it. If you are just going to take their cars, then even less.

Not sure why car hoarding is pissing people off so much. It's a survival game, we are supposed to be fighting over resources, transportation being such a resource. If I could have it my way, it would be the same with every other type of resource such as guns and ammo.

What's the point of this game if everyone could be self sufficient in everything.

 

Its pissing people off, because a clan takes over a server, hackers take over the server..there are other players on the server too...

Additionally on a PVE server once you got all the cars, there gone mate..its that simple... No one else can use em...

Spawns are camped and locked off by exploiters (yes its the devs fault), so the cars are gone either way...

A new rule needs to be implemented on pve servers to prevent this, and the devs need to fix the camping of spawns and base building exploits...

It is a survival game, but people are exploiting the system, that is not how it was designed...

People cry quickly enough when their base is destroyed, vehicles blown up, hacked, exploited, whichever way it gets done...

I could use your logic anywhere, "it is a survival game..." Does that make it fair? nope...

On PVE server these rules are not the same, so it needs to change...

Implement vehicle changes:

Add random keys into the same loot chain as the zombie worn note quests,

Vehicles should be on spawn timers, they despawn if not used within 12-24 hours

If a player dies, the vehicle despawns, the key is lost...

Make the spawns random, add no build zones (or correct the zoning issues)...

Until the developers address this imbalance on pve / pvp servers properly, this is not going to go away...

It is a survival game after all...

 

This is complicated( someone's already saying it's not and preparing a hate filled response) but all most everyone is saying the same word in there response and that word is "survival" the key to survival is controlling many variables as possible.

This one is cars.

Stop people from looting the map for fertilizer that they can use against you. Give them no reason to have biofuel, limit there looting capacity. Control your enemy.

If someone is hoarding large amounts of cars and storing them make em pay. Land mines and ied's and troll em for a few days. Big base 1 or 2 vehicles ok. Big base 5-15 vehicles....big badda boom.

 

Oh well, looks like you need to get some fuel and go for a raid then unless you got some of those demo hammers you were talkin about

 

Ooooh... good point, totally forgot that... that is a HUGE issue right now... people putting furnaces in known-spawn locations... it's like "I can't have it, why should you?" Really?

 

Is this confirmed? AFAIK there are 25 spawns for vehicles, yet, I've seen a cap of 30 cars in 1 base.. meaning, they'll keep respawning in the spots as long as nothing is blocking the spawn even if the last vehicle that spawned is still "alive" out there somewhere.