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Carol Let Negan Out of Jail

Discussion in 'Episode 1012 - Walk With Us' started by Neuropyramidal, Mar 15, 2020.

  1. BlackBird

    BlackBird Well-Known Member

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    If indeed it was Carol, I don’t see why we would get a flashback now, after the reveal. They could just talk about it. However, if it was indeed Daryl, a flashback would be a nice twist, no??
     
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  2. Marc

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    Now I wish Negan and Merle would have met!

    Interesting twist for sure, Far off from the comics.
     
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    I don't believe Daryl had anything to do with letting Negan out unless he and Carol talked about it, but Carol did the deal with Negan. That's the only I can see Daryl being involved.
     
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    they definitely didn’t talk about it, whoever did it. Remember the scene when Daryl went after Carol, who was supposedly looking for Negan?
     
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    I just posted an interview/article with Angela Kang. Your wish will be granted - according to AK we will get the story of how; when and where Negan and Carol forged their alliance
     
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    It was made pretty clear that Carol was reckless in her attempts to get rid of Alpha. This is just another potentially dangerous decisions. Daryl hates the guy, he wouldn't have trust him nor compromise anybody's safety letting him out.

    To me, it's pretty clear it was Carol.
     
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    Confirming what I was typing while you posted this. Thank you dear. <3
     
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  8. BlackBird

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    Seems like you were right!
     
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  9. Dnae

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    Bit of an edit though. Your wish is for it to be revealed in the "next episode". I think you will have to wait since next epi is the Michonne episode.
     
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  10. BlackBird

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    Right folks. I’ve just read the AK interview. And whilst she confirms that Carol and Negan have made some sort of pact, she deliberately doesn’t confirm that it was Carol who let him out of jail. It’s quite possible that they made this deal later, when Carol bumped into him on one of her lone wolf missions.

    There was a little dig Carol made at Daryl in the cave, something about keeping secrets. I wondered then what on earth she meant. So maybe she learnt from Negan that Daryl let him out? Or maybe she met Negan after she was left alone at the cave collapse? I’m just speculating.

    I still feel there is more to this story. A jigsaw piece is missing and it feels very Daryl-shaped to me.
     
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    I really like where this is heading
     
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  12. BlackBird

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    Ok, I apologise in advance that I appear to be fixated on this thing, but it's just really bugging me, and it's so nice to talk it out, even if I'm wrong. So please bare with me.

    I was thinking about what you said, why you think Daryl wouldn't have let Negan go. So let me explain why I think he did, and why Carol wouldn't have.

    Much as Carol has been doing whatever the heck she wanted all season, letting Negan go is I think a step too far, even for her. Simply because for her to do it would have been such a betrayal of Daryl, Michonne and everyone else who fought him and were directly hurt by him. He was simply not her prisoner to let go.

    Now Daryl. It's been a big theme for his character this season how he doesn't do revenge, how he is focused on the now and the future, not the past.

    For Daryl, Negan has become an impasse. The guy did some horrendous stuff to him, to his loved ones, he killed one of his best friends, the list is f**king endless. Yet, here is the asshole still in the cell, 8 years on, and now he's friends with Judith, even saved her once, he even saved Dog, and then Lydia... three creatures who are dear to Daryl.

    Daryl can see Negan has changed and has a good side, yet he can never forget what Negan'd done. What to do with someone like him? Especially when he just murdered someone, and people were voting for his execution, that would have gone against what Carl, Rick and Michonne would have wanted, and even Daryl could see it was an accident when he was trying to do the right thing, protecting a child. So... Wouldn't it be the best solution just to be rid of him? Perhaps give him a mission to prove himself to the Alexandrians? A win-win? He's gone, and might even become useful? And he banked on Negan not turning on them, because of Judith and Lydia at the least.

    So, for me, it makes sense for Daryl to let him out. The council might have voted for his execution the next morning, and Michonne left Daryl in charge of not letting that happen. This was a sure way to avoid it.
     
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    Right, Negan could've just fled the entire area once released. She couldn't be sure of what he'd do, but it was worth the risk. Also, even if he went along with the plan it didn't mean he'd succeed. In a way it was like a suicide mission. He could've been killed on sight. Then she'd be back to plan A. And during the time she was pursuing Alpha she didn't even know if Negan was still alive.
     
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    Speaking of Merle, it would've been fun to have him around to fight the Whisperers. He was a man ahead of his time with that knife hand.
     
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  15. Tigger

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    BlackBird, what would we all do without your brilliant insight?
    Could you, please, watch the bowling with Alpha scene with new eyes then interpret Negan's eyes?
    Did he not look at Alpha the same way?
     
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    Lol, you mean my brilliant insight with which I can eat my hat when we finally get to see it was Carol who let Negan out and I was completely wrong arguing against it? :rolleyes:



    Well, I would identify two fleeting emotions in those eyes: a faint little smugness, that "of course I delivered, I took as long as I needed" and most interestingly, some sadness, that is all tied with his rehashed grief over his wife, as well as some undoubted respect for a formidable enemy he just killed.
     
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    LOL @ bowling with Alpha. Took me a minute to figure out what scene you were referring to. Derp. LOLOLOL
     
  18. purriwinkle

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    I’ve been reading the arguments regarding whether it was Daryl or Carol that let Negan out of his cell and it seems there are merits for both theories. It’ll be fun to find out who did it even though the bowling with Alpha *snort* scene would suggest Carol but I still don’t think I can make up my mind.
     
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  19. Neuropyramidal

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    Right, I think Carol was just covering as many angles as possible, and Negan was just one angle. We really don't know how extensively they talked before she let him out.
     
  20. Sharpie61

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    The reason I think it was Carol and not Daryl. Because when Lydia stated that she let Negan our, he told her that he was keeping guard and knew she never left the house.
    What I would question is, did Daryl know that Carol was the one to let him out? If he was keeping watch, he should have seen her enter the jail.


    The truth is out there
     

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