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Discussion in 'Debaters' started by surviving, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. purriwinkle

    purriwinkle Well-Known Member

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    Besides what Zed said, grabbing p*ss**s, paying off porn stars, and allegations of actual rape never brought down a chorus of Republican lawmakers demanding that Trump resign. I find it hypocritical now that in NYS Republican’s were leading the charge against Cuomo. If they weren’t such a bunch of idiots, if they had kept their mouths shut, the Democrats would continue to eat their own while there would be no semblance that this was politically motivated. If Andy survives and they seek to challenge him in the next election should he run again, they’re gonna have a lot of ‘splaining to do while keeping their fingers crossed that they never made any females staffers “uncomfortable” over the span of their political careers. At least fellow Democrats are seeking accountability.

    So, not at all like Trump’s situation.

    As for the COVID numbers shit? At least he wasn’t suggesting that we inject disinfectants into our bloodstream.
     
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    Well, everyone survived their first dose of the Corona virus vaccine. My husband, myself and a good friend of mine that was scheduled along with me were inoculated with Moderna. MM reported no problems. I had a terribly sore arm, but my friend said she had every side effect except fever. We’re both 90% improved now but we both notice that we seem to be “itchy” all over. Dad got Pfizer and he said he has had no side effects although he only got it yesterday.

    We went to three different sites. My friend and I went to a county run site, my husband had his at the VA and dad went to a state site. All ran smoothly with no excessive waiting, pleasant staff and social distancing/disinfecting being done. Hopefully we’ll have no problems after the second dose which we’re already scheduled for. We also were issued cards that we’ll be able to use as proof of inoculations if needed for special events, etc.
     
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    Nice. Thats got to be a relief after all the hubbub. My pop got his through the VA and had nothing more than a sore arm after each shot for a week. I get my first on Wednesday. Hopefully.


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  4. surviving

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    Lol. During his whole presidency the Washington Post didn't publish a positive story about trump and it was all believed. Now that they give him some credit it bullshit.
    I'm sure these two reporters were physically sick while they were writing this article giving trump credit.
     
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    Youre absolutely correct. Quisling is a tits man.

    https://apnews.com/article/new-york...emic-us-news-1f8f0668093fc3c27137923a06652e7c
    Report: Cuomo groped female aide in governor’s residence
     
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  9. purriwinkle

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    So you’re tacitly admitting that Trump was a crotch grabber and and a rapist because every woman’s allegations are not to be questioned, although when it came to crotch grabbing that came right out of Trump’s mouth. Andy denies touching any woman inappropriately although I’m sure the next step will be for Republicans to trot out a woman with a semen stained dress, lol
     
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    Biden’s team is succeeding in spite of Trump’s road blocks. Remember the unwillingness to share the pandemic preparedness plan with the incoming administration?
     
  11. surviving

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    Lol The Democrats are calling for his resignation from Federal level down to the local level. More Democrats have called for his resignation than Republicans.


    After the 2016 election allegations against trump ceased.
    More and more women continue to come forward with accusations against Quisling. Some of these women allege these incidents occurred only a few months ago.
    All these women were staffers in his administration except one reporter so this isn't political.
    I also find it hilarious that he used one of trump's talking points to defend his refusal to resign. "The Cancel Culture" I'm sure he scored tons of brownie points with fellow Democrats when he described them as such.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/12/nyregion/cuomo-resign-congress.html?0p19G=6214

    I Googled him yesterday. I was stunned to find his headlines in the news were almost identical to trump's. Their names could be interchangeable. So yes he's on the same level as trump. Egotistical *sshole.
    He's most definitely the Democrats trump. He doesn't know wrong from right.
    The only difference is trump's party didn't abandon him like Quisling's party has abandoned him.
     
  12. purriwinkle

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    oh, it’s more political than you can imagine. He has enemies on both sides of the aisle.
    On the face of it, Dems are conscious of the optics. They don’t want to be seen as supporting someone who is accused of sexual harassment, unlike Republicans did for Trump. They want to be the anti Republicans who stand for the morally high ground but I suspect that’s not the whole of it.
    The “extreme” left sees it as an opportunity to get rid of someone who might not fully support their agendas. He’s also made quite a few enemies because of his “pugilistic” governing style who wouldn’t mind seeing him gone while making themselves look good.

    I agree he has a lot of “ego” and he definitely wants to be the one in charge. He’s scrappy though and I think he welcomes the fight but we’ll see. As for using one of Trump’s talking points, if it worked for Donnie why not at this point, lol.

    I do think he’s old school but he should know right from wrong being a former asst.DA and attorney general of NY which makes me think that maybe, just maybe he doesn’t think he did anything wrong, at least illegal and he’s probably right there....but it doesn’t look good in this Me Too era I will admit. I need to see what the investigations uncover.

    Read more about it:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/11/nyregion/cuomo-resign-sexual-harassment.amp.html

    In Cuomo’s own words:

    “This is very simple,” Cuomo said on the call. “I never touched anyone inappropriately. As I said last week, I never made any inappropriate advances. No one ever told me at the time that I made them uncomfortable.”

    You can allege something. Might be true. Might not be true. You might have misperceived,” he added.

    “There are allegations, and then there are allegations,right? And there are spectrum of allegations. There’s capital crimes, there’s physical violence, down to more minor violations,” Cuomo said.

    “I’m not going to resign because of allegations. The premise of resigning because of allegations is actually anti-democratic.”


    Since you want to compare the two, what did Trump say?

    And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, "I'll show you where they have some nice furniture." I took her out furniture—I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.

    I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful—I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything.

    “I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened,” Trump told The Hill in an interview at the White House.

    In 2016, after a former magazine writer accused Trump of assaulting her in 2005, he responded: “She lies! Look at her, I don’t think so.”

    And when another woman claimed Trump groped her on an airplane in the early 1980s, he said, “Believe me — she would not be my first choice.”


    I will concede that what we have here are two men who have been accused of sexual misconduct by more than one woman. At this point Andy refuses to resign. He’s definitely tarnished. I was kidding about the dress in an earlier post. Republicans called for an impeachment over the COVID nursing homes stats but in the long run they have little to gain if the Dems are perceived as cleaning their own house.

    *Oh, I almost forgot about your statement that sexual allegations against Trump ceased after the 2016 election.


    • In June 2019, columnist E. Jean Carroll accused President Donald Trump of sexually assaulting her by forcing his p*n*s inside her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the mid-1990s. And in September 2020, model Amy Dorris said that in 1997 Trump forcibly kissed her, groped her all over her body, and gripped her tightly so she couldn't get away.
     
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    purriwinkle Well-Known Member

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    Just some more info from our local paper: *edited for brevity*

    Assembly Speaker Carl Heastie , D-Bronx, said the Assembly Judiciary Committee will undertake the investigation into “allegations of misconduct against Governor.”

    The investigation comes as Attorney General Letitia James is already investigating the sexual harassment allegations against Cuomo and has hired two outside attorneys to handle the investigation.

    Heastie contended:”This inquiry will not interphere with the independent investigation being conducted by Attorney General James.”

    “You don’t know any facts, right?”Cuomo said Tuesday. “You know allegations. You don’t know facts. Let’s operate on facts.”

    Republicans knocked the Assembly’s decision to have it’s own investigation.

    “This reeks of a political maneuver designed by Speaker Heastie to buy time and exploit the Governor’s weakness during the heat of budget negotiations” for the fiscal year that starts April 1, said state GOP chairman Nick Langworthy. “If I’ve said it once, I’ve said it a hundred times: we already have ample evidence that proves Andrew Cuomo is unfit to serve and anything short of a full impeachment is a complicit move to keep him as Governor.”

    But unless Heastie were to choose to partner with Republican to oust Cuomo, Democrats at this point appear to lack the votes to impeach him. Some Democrats have supported waiting until Jame’s investigation is finished to decide Cuomo’s fate.

    An impeachment would start with a majority vote in the Assembly, where Democrats hold more than 100 of the 150 seats. If Cuomo were to be impeached, Lt. Gov. Kathy Hochul would become acting governor while he awaits impeachment trial.

    A trial would be held jointly by the Senate and Court of Appeals. A two-thirds majority vote would be required to convict Cuomo and remove him from office.

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    But it is uncertain whether Heastie would brake from Assembly tradition: Democrats only vote on bills when they don’t need Republican votes to pass; that means 76 Democratic votes are required.

    So with 40 Democratic members in the assembly calling on Cuomo to resign, Heastie would either need to partner with Republicans to oust Cuomo or get more Democrats on board.

    And Cuomo’s wait-for-the-investigation position has gotten support from more than a dozen assembly members, including Assembly Majority Leader Crystal People’s-Stokes, of Buffalo, who is second in command.
     
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    I think its important to note also that let’s wait for the investigation is completely different from let’s stop the the investigation. While all Democrats aren’t fully jumping on Cuomo’s ouster, they are at least willing to admit that these allegations MAY be true and will have to deal with it after an investigation. He may FEAL he has done nothing wrong but that’s not up to him. I believe members of his own party will hold him accountable even without Republicans help. Bill Clinton got away with a lot, but Cuomo is no Clinton.


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    I’ll comment more when the investigations are completed.

    In the meantime, I know I’m not alone....

    https://scri.siena.edu/2021/03/15/voters-say-cuomo-should-not-resign-50-35/
     
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