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Do you think Carl will kill Lizzie?

Discussion in 'Episode 410 - Inmates' started by Ethan Kickett, Feb 17, 2014.

  1. Ethan Kickett

    Ethan Kickett New Member

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    If Carl finds out about Lizzie trying to smother Judith, do you think it will be enough reason for Carl to kill Lizzie or will we have to wait until she really does something bad?
     
  2. jwcoombs

    jwcoombs Well-Known Member

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    I think were going to see her eventually do something unforgivable, then Carl will have to step up and do what everyone knows needs to be done, but the adults can't stomach it. The shows rendition of the Billy/Ben story is far from over.
     
  3. Govisgreat

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    i hope lizzie kills carl
     
  4. ForceReaper

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    Why?
     
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    I hope Lizzie stages a coup d'état during which Rick and/or Michonne are killed.
     
  6. yangxai

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    Well I want Lizzie to kill Carl because he's a psychotic killer. The guy killed a kid in cold blood; He's dangerous.
    Also because Lizzies a much better and more interesting character then the emo (I have to prove to everyone I'm a Man) Carl.
    Plus Lizzie is much more useful to the group then Carl has ever been.

    Lizzie's a natural born leader; She became defacto leader of kids at the prison and was ordering Tyrese around in last episode. She's saved so many lives do to her quick and decisive decisions. She ain't wishy washy like Rick. Group would be much better off with Rick giving the Rictatorship to Crazy girl :Grin:
     
  7. Tyler

    Tyler Well-Known Member

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    LOL, I've heard it all!

    You mean the guy [Don't exaggerate. He wasn't a kid] that just tried to kill Carl's family and friends and then disobeyed direct orders? Yeah, lets totally not shoot the guy that just tried to kill my family and is now walking closer to me and my baby sister with a gun instead of dropping like told.

    I disagree, but that's subjective so nothing to say here. Personally, I'd probably appreciate Lizzie's character more if the girl that plays her could actually act. Her little sister is even worse.

    LOL. Just out of curiosity, list the things that she's done that put her over Carl in usefulness?
     
  8. steenkash

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    Good rebuttal to a weak argument.

    Carl shot someone who refused to put his gun down, lets say under the circumstances members of that guys group came to the scene, I am pretty sure he would not reciprocate an amicable approach by Carl. Also do we class people who indulge in smothering children sane now?

    Lizzie useful to the group, how so ?
     
  9. yangxai

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    The kid was just a couple years older then Carl; If you rewatch that scene he was putting down his Gun and tells Carl to take it. Carl then just shoots him. Herschel basically tells Rick that Carl killed that kid in cold blood. It's why Rick went all Farmer guy this season and took away Carl's gun.

    Carl and lizzie are both pretty bad actors there's really nothing that can be done about them at this point sadly.

    She's been here half the season and she's already

    Saved Tyreese
    Saved Glen
    saved Judith
    protects her sister
    She's become the defacto leader of the kids
    plus i'm pretty sure she was the one who took out Karen and that other dude
    She's a very good shot.
    she's also a natural leader and got very good ideas, it was her who keeps telling Tyreese they need to keep moving and that they needed shelter.


    Also she doesn't wander off aimlessly trying to prove himself a Man while getting other people killed in the process which i consider a huge plus :zombies_lol:
     
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  10. steenkash

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    Not forgetting she gets a positive stimuli from smothering infants.

    edit: she's also a zombie whisperer.
     
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  11. Shumpert

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    answer: yes...
    unless Carol is the one
     
  12. yangxai

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    See so many positives compared to Carl :zombies_lol:

    Lizzie>Carl
     
  13. HeadlessHershel

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    These are kids so I wouldn't call them bad actors but Lizzie is definitely more competent with a sidearm, knives, and apparently, her hands.

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  14. RarreKZ

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    Well, I could see her choke Judith (kinda like she did in the episode) and Carl will go rage mode and kill her.
     
  15. batongal

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    This is what I think, Carol will be the one. And she will understand what Rick had to do when it was Sofia.
     
  16. yangxai

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    Lizzie would beat Carl silly; Carl's a wannabe Man but in the end he's just a scared little boy who still needs his Daddy. Lizzie's already a boss and she knows it.
     
  17. batongal

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    Ha, this is funny and I do happen to agree, but that is because Carl has EMOTIONS and Lizzie has nothing...just an empty shell of a child.
     
  18. coki

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    I hope he sofocate fuc&#in lizzie! Mada&#fac#@er!
     
  19. Matt

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    Carl barely knows Lizzie. Wouldn't it be more thematically fitting to have Carol be the one to put her down?
     
  20. Tyler

    Tyler Well-Known Member

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    Decent reply. Here's mine.

    According to interviews, Jody is 18. Don't let age fool you, as we've seen younger people are just as dangerous. Here's the thing: Carl didn't want to take the gun and that's irrelevant anyway. He was told to DROP the gun, not slowly walk over and hand it over. FACT. Also, ignoring the fact that Jody had just attacked them. Other characters have attacked the group and they were killed and that's apparently okay, but it's not okay when Carl does it. I wonder why.

    Hershel told Rick what he thought, in his opinion. He didn't mention to Rick that he wasn't dropping the gun. This is more of a writing inconsistency though.

    Chandler Riggs is an all right actor, he has a few nominations under his belt. His line delivery is a bit iffy and he's awkward at times but generally he does a good job most of the time. The girl that plays Lizzie is just terrible. But I guess that's subjective but that's just my personal opinion.


    Cute list.

    Here's Carl's.

    1) Instantly joined the search to find Sophia. His best friend.
    2) Found the big-weapon pack in Season Two that they used throughout the whole season. There was several scenes where the group could be seen using theese weapons and those weapons probably saved their lives.
    3) Was shot, went through a ****-load of pain and after he got better he wanted to help defend the place. Learned how to shoot.
    4) Killed Walker Shane, thus saving his father
    5) Part of the B-Strike team. We saw this in Season Three as he helped storm the house. This somewhat implies that he's been done it for a while.
    6) He got the supplies to save Hershel's life when the adults would not. They talked about it and they did nothing.
    7) Escorted and Protected his Mother [In Labour] through the tombs
    8) Had the courage put his own mother down and then take responsibility for his Sister
    9) Actively helping with walker clearing sessions, mere days after he lost his mother
    10) Saved Michonne's life. When his father was dazing off, he made the call to save her.
    11) Regularly speaks out and says how it is
    12) Protected Beth when The Governor attacked the prison for the first time
    13) Told his crazy father to take a break from leading when nobody else had the balls to do it
    14) Saved his father from Morgan
    15) Helped on the supply run which aided them in the defeat of The Governor
    16) Doesn't keep things from his father but at the same time he has enough sense to know that Carol teaching the kids how to fight was the right thing. He convinced his father to let her do it.
    17) Helped save Michonne's life [again]
    18) Was very in smart in telling Hershel that he's not going out into the Woods on his own. Protected Hershel while he gathered herbs
    19) Helped save pretty much everyone, that includes Lizzie. When he helped Rick clear out that massive herd of walkers. None of the main fighters were around at the time, but he could count on his son.
    20) Saved his father
    21) Saved his father again
    22) Saved Tyreese.
    23) Saved Sasha
    24) Saved Allen
    25) Saved Ben
    26) An extension of the above. He's not a leader of kids when he has to be but a leader of adults and women when he has to be. This is shown when he rescued Tyreese's group. He quickly established his authority, making it clear that they're guests and they're are in his house. As he smartly locked them in for protection.
    27) Got up early in the morning before Lizzie and most to farm. Yes Farm. It's not all about saving people. He's helping put the food on the plate that Lizzie is eating.

    And that's not even all of them :zombies_lol:

    It's funny you say that. Because correct me I'm wrong wasn't it also that Dale that "aimlessly" wandered off in the middle of the night? On his own and with nothing more then a bolt action rifle? Didn't he see an eaten cow and then not run away or get help? I'm pretty sure I'm right on that ;) What Carl did was dumb but ultimately Dale got himself killed.

    Still, I'd say smothering a defences baby beats that
     

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