Sooooo..........

Ditka? Or a hurricane?

 

Huh!?! Merle didn't knock out Rick for 30 sec with one hit. He got his ass whipped by Officer Friendly (aka Rick)

 

Merle did knock out Rick for 30 seconds, then he knocked down Morales, and beat the hell out of T-dog, until Rick came back to his sense, and hit him from behind with a shovel.

 

I re-watched it. He hit him, Rick was of kilter for some seconds, but not knocked out. To me, and also to the boxing world, a knock out is when the person is flat out laid out, temporarily unconscious. All we saw with Rick, was on a knee, shaking the punch off, then getting ready to kick Merle's ass. Merle had to use the brunt end of a gun to start whipping around at people.

 

There's a reason why you don't see 145 lb boxer's in the ring with 175 lb boxers. Size and strength does matter. From what we saw I don't think Rick had a enough superiority in speed or technique to overcome his size disadvantage.

 

Carl vs Beth ?

 

There's really no such think as a fair fight outside of a boxing or mma ring

 

A knock out in a boxing match is that one is knocked down, and conscious or not, can not get up in the count of 10. and let us be honest, Rick knocked Merle down by a classic suck punch

 

You're arbitrarily dividing the fight into two segments just to say Rick won the "second" part of the fight unfairly. Shane was an idiot for walking away just because he dumped a bike on Rick. First rule of a fight and first rule of law enforcement is you never turn your back until you KNOW the situation is OVER. That means the other guy is in handcuffs or a body bag. Capitalizing on an opening is not "unfair," it's what you do in a fight. Shane acted in the fight with Rick the way he's acted all this season: short sighted and impetuous.

 

Size & Strength only matters in a fair and organized fighting situation. The idea in an organized fight is to balance things out to create an equal and fair fight. So you're not going to put a light weight up against a heavy weight. Now with that said, how do you think Shane would have done against 135lb Bruce Lee? Or 175lb Royce Gracy? Now me personally, despite holding a Black Belt in Mertial Arts, I would have just shot the guy, Street fighting is a whole different story. Although Rick came out okay in that fight, his wounds was almost enough to get him killed by Walkers. So shooting Shane makes more sense to me...but to each his own.

 

i think your argument is a little silly. Shane isn't fighting a world champion class martial artist or even a run of the mill one. If you have two people with relatively equal skill and conditioning fighting each other size is going to tip the scale in the larger mans favor.

 

The idea of a fair fight during a Zombie Apocalpyse is a bit silly to me. So is the smaller guy going to get fined or suspended for smashing the bigger guys head in with a rock or stabbing in the Gut with his knife?

It's funny this subject came up, I was watching a low budget Zombieflick last night while working out. The show had Ving Rhames who if you don't know is a huge tough guy! This guy is swinging a sledge hammer like nothing. Well he comes up against a zombie that towers him! Ving just doesn't stand a one on one fight with this massive zombie. So he finds a Chainsaw lol

 

I liked how he tended to stab zombies in the head with that hammer, sure beats doing it with a itty bitty pocketknife.

 

I saw that movie, in which an asian chick is swinging a katana,and bunch of archers from Chicago

 

Yup, that's the one. I haven't finished watching it yet but it's not all that bad.

Anyhow, I understand in a perfect world, Size and weight count for a lot, I'm just saying there are no rules in a ZA. So a smaller weaker guy can legally choose to use an equalizer. That and not all tall well built people can truly fight and not all small guys are push overs.

 

SVTRay, the debate is not really based on how it would go down in the show, but rather a "what if" scenario in a boxing ring pretty much.