Tara and Heath aren't missing. They're on a two week supply run. This was mentioned in an earlier episode. This is why they refer to how "Tara is going to take it hard when she finds out that Denise is gone" or something along those lines. She doesn't know yet because she's been gone for a while.

Regarding Denise, she had good reasons for wanting to go. She's finally realizing the reality of her situation, and she wants to take steps to better prepare herself for it. This can be likened to Father Gabriel going to find a walker to kill. She needs to prove to herself that she can do it. She's the one that discovered the location, and wanted to be there to help identify the meds that they'd need. Daryl and Rosita ended up just taking all of it, but she didn't assume that this would be the case.

Eugene isn't an engineer, he's just really smart. But regardless, that made perfect sense to me. He saw an opportunity to start producing bullets, and decided to investigate it. That's not random. It's good thinking, and it's the exact type of thinking that Eugene should have as the pseudo-engineer of the group. He's discovering how he can contribute to the group, and taking steps to make it happen.

Regarding Rick giving Morgan a gun...that wasn't "Rick's gun" as in his Colt Python. It was a gun that he had just looted off of a dead Savior. He wasn't running off unarmed, and the ASZ doesn't have a shortage of guns. They probably have more guns than they have people to use the guns.

Regarding the rest, I agree for the most part. Everyone seems to be acting kind of out of character right now.

 

I think you're correct in that the writers have been more concerned with getting the pieces in place for the finale than they've been about the characters acting out of character. What you need to decide as a viewer is if stupid/questionable decision making from the group trumps compelling storytelling.

 

@Gustavo LaPizza thank you!

 

Ok, here we go.

- Denise did not decide to 'walk out for no reason'. She went with Daryl and Rosita to an apothecary for medical supplies. The fact that she went along means nothing, considering Eugene would've still been captured, and either Rosita or Daryl would of been killed, and the other taken hostage to use as leverage in Alexandria.

- How is it the group's fault that Eugene got captured by Dwight?

- Carol had no choice in killing those men. They were going to hurt her friends, and they were going to capture her.

- Daryl was already pissed at Dwight because he used HIS crossbow to kill Denise. So he feels like he played a part in her death. And so what if Daryl was outsmarted? There not godscends, it's gonna happen to them sometimes.

- But Alexandria isn't undefended. There's still lots of people there. And including people like Sasha, Abraham and Rick.

- How is Morgan a threat? In fact he saved that armored man, who wasn't affiliated with the Saviors, and is a possible member of The Kingdom. Killing him would have hurt Alexandria's future relations with them. And Rick gave him his gun, so what? They have A LOT of guns back home. There's a reason why the Hilltop began trading with them for weapons.

- You may not remember, but Tara and Heath went on a 2-Week run. That's why they haven't shown up.

 

oh dear.

 

Denise doesn't have combat experience, but in a zombie apocalypse, wouldn't it make sense to want to get some combat experience? She was trying to better prepare herself for the realities of the world that she was finally coming to terms with. There's nothing questionable about this as I see it. It's really quite logical.

 

How is it useless? Hilltop is providing food and medicine, but that doesn't make a supply run useless. More supplies is never a bad thing, and there are surely plenty of things that Hilltop doesn't have. There are some good points here, but this is an utterly terrible one. Making a supply run is anything but useless.

 

This thread is useless.

 

Aside from the part about Tara and Heath being missing (which others have touched upon already), I'm generally in agreement with your analysis. It boils down to an underlying stupidity being shown regarding how much of a threat the Saviors are. At the very least, Daryl, Rosita, Abe, and Eugene's report of their encounter with Dwight and Co. should have warned the rest of the group that despite their apparent victory at the communications compound, there are still some bad dudes running around out there. At least five survived the encounter on the train tracks, and they appeared to still be armed and knew where Alexandria was.

If I were living in Alexandria, I definitely would have pushed for increased vigilance at the walls and no unauthorized or small group forays outside the walls - with the exception of scouts doing recon work to try and give advance notice if any unfriendlies showed up unannounced (I believe they still have some walkie talkies that could help with that). I just don't get that they'd be so blasé about the possibly threats that they already know about.

And I totally agree about the idiocy of Rick and Morgan abandoning the town to go off half-cocked to find Carol. Once they found the truck (yet another indication that there were more bad guys still in the vicinity), they definitely should have high-tailed it back to Alexandria.

 

They need a complete overhaul of the writing staff.. They F@@k up the most basic things, that's the frustrating part.

AMC does have some Great writers, just watch Better Call Saul.

 

Denise has to learn how to survive. Regardless, she's gonna end up out there. It's better Denise knows how to survive than to be completely unprepared. And she obviously wants to prove her worth, even past her doctoring skills, that's why she wanted to go in the first place, she wanted to face her fears.

Is there a problem or inconsistency with Eugene starting to act cocky? He thinks he's tough sh*t now, but Abraham knows better. Abraham left Eugene on his own to prove a point: that Eugene has his skill set, and Abraham has his own. Nobody can do everything. And Abraham could have never known that more Saviors were out there creepin' on Eugene.

I have no idea what's going on with Carol right now, that's all I can tell you.

Emotions have clouded Daryl's decision making. That happens constantly with him, as well as all the characters on this show. That's the entire reason there's conflict in the first place. Daryl isn't thinking logically right now, he's acting off of anger. So I'd expect him to do things out of the norm.

I'm sure that the Alexandrians can handle their own now, considering what they went through with the herd. And you have to realize that this is a unprecedented emergency, there was no planning involved in any of this at all.

So you're saying if Rick killed that man their possible relations with The Kingdom wouldn't have been wrecked? If Rick and Daryl killed Jesus, would their relations with the Hilltop been damaged? I definitely think so, without a doubt.

The Hilltop provides FOOD for Alexandria, that's all.

But they can't get into touch with them. Because they're missing. Carol nor Daryl had a radio on them at the time. And why would they?


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What was stupid with Eugene was starting a fight with Abraham out in the middle of nowhere. What possible good could have come from that?

 

Two birds with one stone. She needed practice. She found an apothecary that probably had medicine. She wanted to come along to get medicine and some practice at the same time. This is pretty straightforward.

Tara and Heath left on their supply run straight from the Saviors compound. They didn't leave at the same time as Eugene and Abe. They'd already been gone for days, and possibly weeks at this point. It's not like they had just left and could be quickly called back.

Honestly, most of your complaints sound like little more than a lack of attention to detail.

You say that they had no idea where to look. They did. They saw that she took a car. They saw that the tracks went east. That was their best bet, so they went east. Sure enough, they found her, or at least found her trail.

 

Eugene got too damn cocky, that's what. He thinks he's all this now, but Abraham knows better.

 

I'm sorry but BCS isn't THAT good of a show.

 

Agreed, BCS is alright, but it wouldn't stand on its own without Breaking Bad supporting it. I'm enjoying it, but I'm not completely engaged with it like I was with Breaking Bad.