Loll, I really don't get why everyone says that Carol is on it. It's way out of character if you want my opinion. It's also pushing it a little bit too far to say that she would commit the crime with Lizzie. I know some people find her odd/cold/mysterious/weird after the last episode, but I really don't get what the fuss is all about. She just tries to teach the kids that it's a mad world they are living in and they are gonna die if they don't get strong. She learned it the hard way with Sophia and she is only trying to prevent horrible things to happen as much as she can. That's it. Nothing weird going on at all. Carol isn't a killer. It's not part of who she is and it will never be. Yes, she once told Andrea to kill the Gov but it's because he was a direct threat to their family and it was the best solution to prevent a battle. Now, we're talking about sick people and it's a very different story. She's a healer, she tends to people, she takes care of her family, she feeds them, she brings comfort....There's no way in hell she would kill two people in cold blood, drag them out of the prison and lit them on fire.

I assume the crime happened while she took care of Lizzie & Mika during the day. You really think that after such an emotional day, she would just go out of the blue like that and kill people? She has now two kids under her wings because she promised Ryan she would take care of them so I'm sure she knows better. Carol was all in for putting the sick people in quarantine but she wouldn't go as far as killing them with her own hands. If it's her at the end of the day, I think it will destroy her character because it doesn't make any sense and people will never get over her action, no matter how justified it is.

 

I can see this happening lizzie killed them and Carol burned them
to cover it up

 

My Carol would never do that. We all know she cares about Lizzie, but shes not that close to her. AND the rats were fed to the walkers BEFORE Lizzie's and Mika's dad died. Make any sense?

 

pretty sure they were moved to A. isn't that what the council said? Someone made a comment about it being death row

 

It think it will probably be an airborn virus. If it was the flu, or something like it, doesn't mean it will kill everyone. just because Patrick died does not mean that everyone will die who gets sick. A few people might not get it at all. I would guess that the reason michonne, tyreese, Daryl and Bob are going out is for medicine. There probably is going to be a huge outbreak next week. I think it will kill a few people before Daryl saves the day with the medicine, much to the chagrin of some of the posters here. The doctor can probably care for them and keep them alive with some of the medications he probably has on hand

 

To be fair, who ever did it is out of character, unless it's someone we don't know yet.

The scenes where split up so much she could of did it at anytime. And for the emotional day thing. (from my viewpoint) She didn't even look that emotional when she put down Ryan. Yes she was kinda tearing, but it's not like she was on the floor crying her eyes out.

The reason why I think Carol did it is because she wants to protect Lizzie and Mika from catching the disease. And she was very quick to jump the gun when she heard Karen coughing.

Carol has changed from last season, and last season she turned into a strong ass woman. This season she's acting strange. Not Governor strange, but she will do things without thinking now. Another possibility I think it's her because as we see in the promos, she returns to the quote on quote "scene of the crime". Idk if it's for sure her, but I don't think we should count her out.


I also don't think Lizzie killed the 2 and Carol did the burning. (for OP)

 

Could be on the moving to A. I think there were probably more than just a few people in there though. They would have put everyone in the block the attack happened together in quarantine. It would be easy at night to kill some one quietly then drag and burn them. Ty was headed to quarantine to see Karen. Not her normal cell. We'll see on the sickness. You could be right in the fact that they need to get the numbers down. Maybe they will come through with medicine. Although a sickness like this doesn't seem curable by a trip to the CVS. It's not your run of the mill flu. Curing or immunizing people against this seems like a tough ask for a doctor in these circumstances. They would need to find a stocked hospital. Pretty sure they won't stumble upon that considering Woodbury was there and established as well as frequent trips around the area didn't turn up anything.

 

Carol has gotten colder, and cares for those girls, but I would be shocked if it ends up being her. Would seem out of charachter. She is seen along with Daryl mixed in the Rick Tyreese fight, but not buying it was Carol. Especially since it looks like the person murdered them before dragging and burning them.

 

I agree. Everybody banging on about how she's changed, doesn't make me think she's a killer. She is simply teaching these kids what they need to survive in the world now. The Woodbury parents could have been sheltered and not aware that nowhere is 100% safe. Carol learned with Sophia, and she doesn't want the kids to suffer the same fate. Simple as. She's stronger, colder, because that is the world, but not a crazy killer.

 

I'm sure there is a pharmacy somewhere with medicine that could help. Medication for normal flu could still help with this flu. Maybe not for everyone, but probably for younger adults with strong immune systems. The elderly from woodbury would probably all still die. possibly children too. Hershel could be a goner if he gets it. Regardless, I'm sure there is some medicine out there somewhere that will work (even if not realistic) to save the group. Either that or they all die and the rest of the season focuses on the journeys of various walkers. I don't think that there was anyone else that they had put in A yet. If there were, there are only two bodies. Where are they? I think that they would probably look for them to question them. They'd be suspect #1. there also is certainly some sort of sickness going around. If it were Karen, why would Karen fake being sick to be quarantined with the sick people just to carry out a plan for the gov? that would almost guarantee that she would also get sick and probably die. that's some loyalty. and then what? she pulls off her diabolical plan and is lurking around the tombs? I doubt it. I think we will find out Sunday that Karen, is in fact, Dead

 

Well, any flu I've had didn't involve internal organs blowing up and blood coming out of orphuses. I know we are in a hypothetical world so anything is possible. I agree that Karen wouldn't voluntarily go there if she was not sick. Hence the theory of her causing the sickness somehow. Again, being in such close quarters, an airborne disease would rip through the prison. Old, young, great immune system or poor. That's why I thought it would be a great story if she and/or David faked being sick, went to quarantine, snuck around grabbed another person in quarantine (again anyone that survived the attack would be there), killed them, slipped the bracelet on and bbq'd them. She would be then free to move about the prison. Again just a theory, just as her being dead is as well. Either way we get a angry Ty. I just happen to think the Karen traitor story would be cooler. As you said, we'll find out Sunday.

 

You could easily pick up Tamiflu and aspirin at the pharmacy, and for something like this it's the best you can do.

It's not like the last flu shots would have been geared toward it.

 

I don't trust flu shots anyway. everyone that I know that gets one gets the flu

 

I like this theory the best, from what I've read. Carol clearly has a strong connection with Lizzie, probably stronger connection than she has with Mika. Lizzie could have possibly killed Karen and David to show Carol she's not weak. Carol could have went to search for her after she stormed off & found Lizzie over the bodies of Karen and David. In a panicked state, she quickly dragged the bodies (maybe with the help of Lizzie), and burned them to protect her.

I think it's plausible, from what we've seen so far.

I really don't think it's Sasha. It seems out of character for her, although she was the one who escorted Karen away and it appears she's extremely sick in the next episode. I just don't think it's her.

I don't think it's Bob because it's predictable. But I'd say there's more of a chance of it being him than Sasha.

And I DEFINITELY don't think Karen "faked" it and is working undercover for The Governor. Like, no. I wouldn't even like that, it's too far-fetched.

 

Why would anybody work for the Governor?! And I am talking about those who came from Woodbury. The Governor is who knows where, probably far away, and haven't seen them about 6 or 7 months.

 

I get that Carol doesn't want to repeat the same mistakes again with those two little girls but I highly doubt that it would get her to kill innocent people in order to make it happen. She already took the initiative to teach them about knives so they can protect themselves. She also did a little speech to Lizzie about becoming strong because she can't afford to be weak in this world.

The main reason why I think Carol didn't do it is because Lizzie gets sick anyway and she is put in quarantine by Carol in the next episode. She wears a bandana and she leads Lizzie to a secure room where she can recover. Wouldn't it be weird for Carol to kill two people in cold blood to protect the kids from getting sick, yet, Lizzie gets sick anyway and Carol makes sure she doesn't spread the disease by putting her in quarantine? It would be like bothering to commit a crime so horrible for absolutely nothing. If her primary goal was for the girls to not get sick, it clearly didn't work as planned.

 

Really fans think that Carol killed Karen and david really

From the preview Carol is still wearing the same clothes.
If she did her clothes would have Karen and David blood all over them and plus her clothes would smell of gasoline after burning the bodies.

Yes the girl lizzie is a little strange but I doubt she killed Karen and David.
Through I think she is the one feeding the walkers

 

Some fans might think that Carol is the killer, but most people think Carol is just cleaning up after Lizzie. Lizzie is the killer, Carol only burned the bodies.

 

I bet that Karen is the killer and that she is also the traitor.
She killed david got a walkers body but her bangle on the body
Then burned the bodies so they would be hard to identify.

 

No; she's dead, this isn't the whole "Lori isn't dead!" Situation all over again is it?
Look at the clothes, the same shoes (thought burnt out), tank top, bracelet and all match. Plus on part of the leg it Shows partially intact Skin. The bodies is fresh and it IS Karen.