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Nick and the Globe

Discussion in 'Episode 202 - We All Fall Down' started by Neuropyramidal, Apr 17, 2016.

  1. Neuropyramidal

    Neuropyramidal Well-Known Member

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    Did Willa already know the pills were in the globe? Or is Nick responsible for her finding them? ;)
     
  2. Terranova

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    My impression was that she didn't know before, and she saw from Nick, that the globe opens
     
  3. Aztecia

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    Kinda weird that Nick found the pills so quickly... But I guess a junkie knows the tricks.
     
  4. EZD

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    I guess a Junkie knows the tricks when the story requires it?

    I thought at first that he was in an abandoned house there rummaging around and not that he was stealing from the people who gave him safe passage and food,what a strange scene.

    None of this made sense to me really.
     
  5. Biffster

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    Junkies gonna junk.


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  6. drifter77

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    A room full of random stuff, and the first random object he picks up happens to have a secret compartment? Nick is like a drug-sniffing dog.
     
  7. trekcarbonboy

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    I guarantee if you ask 100 20yo junkies what Jonestown is, 99 have no idea. Fortunately for our story we got that 1 junkie.
     
  8. br0k3n

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    Yes, his love for drugs led him to:

    1. Break the trust of some of the fellow survivors of the zombie apocalypse, who just took him in and fed him, etc.
    2. Attempt to steal from them.
    3. Reveal the location of poison to a child, who...
    4. Subsequently died as a result..
    5. Turned into a zombie and killed her own mother

    hope that haunts him
     
  9. Sharpie61

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    I don't think he was stealing from them. He was suspicious about the "power pills ". He wanted to find out what they were.
    Nick seems to be the only one using his fried brain. And remember, he told his mom that he had clarity now
     
  10. EZD

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    I didn't really understand the "Power Pills" thing at all?

    Are you saying the Death Pills were the same thing?
    If so why would the kid sound like he was taking them every day or did I misunderstand that too and the kid meant that if in trouble the pills would keep him safe forever?

    What a strange tangent this episode went on,m=none of this made a lot of sense to me in any way it all just seemed kludged together and with little way for us to comprehend things,I guess I am not cerebral enough for this one?
     
  11. Sharpie61

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    That the pills would save them, I think
     
  12. Lupey

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    Plus didn't the boy say something like "Willa took her pill"? I took it that they knew where they were.
     
  13. carolsubmissive

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    The way I saw it, the whole family knew about the pills and the idea that at some point they'd all suicide together, obviously a disguised name was used for the children.

    Nick, having built a bond with the boy, took it upon himself to have a look around. You could tell during the chat in the bedroom after the kid mentioned 'power pills' that Nick was suspicious
     
  14. EvilDeadJ

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    great question and a subject I wanted to start a thread on till I found this..

    I think she only found the pills because she saw Nick with the globe open looking at them, which makes Nick indirectly responsible for her death and the death of her mother and father

    Nick's character is quickly becoming a dark protagonist or one of the most unlikable ones of the group
     
  15. mtito914

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    What? Huh?.. How can u blame Nick for the death of Willa and her mom? I think George(DaD) had a little something to do with it.
     
  16. EvilDeadJ

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    his parents were teachers/education workers... so you know how that goes, those kids always know stuff the rest of us dont
     
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  17. EvilDeadJ

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    I wouldnt use the word "blame" I said indirectly responsible.. I think it can be assumed from the information we have, that those pills were to be used as a precautionary measure against turning, should zombies breach the perimeter/defenses of that ranger station/house..

    I dont think the girl knew where the pills were before hand, she obviously didnt know what they were for .. her seeing Nick fidget with them is what prompted her to fish them out and eat one.. otherwise she would have done it a whole lot sooner had she known where those pills were ..

    so in my estimation, Nick snooping for drugs like the addict he is, through the personal belongings of George in his personal study no less, *indirectly led to that little girl finding and swallowing the pills and dying from them

    lets not forget the horrendous act of Nick stealing the morphine drip of a man seriously ill with heart malfunction, possibly costing the man his life or in the very least endangering the man (the opioids were being used to relieve pressure off the man's failing heart)

    in my opinion.. Nick is turning out to be quite an unpleasant little pr*ck, which is probably why Strand likes him
     
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    This is why the walking dead beats us over the head with a hammer to make some points.

    Nick picked up on the something weird about the power pills and the "so the family can stay together" went searching (possible to get high)the boy appears to know the pills would put them to "Sleep". The mom had cancer ,she agreed with the family suicide when it would just be the kids , dad and dying mom and there was no one else in the world (to their perspective)The mom was interviewing Madison to see if she was fit and willing to take the younger kids. IF Willa had waited 10 more minutes they would have left together.

    Now the plot hole was there are no suicide pills ,there are pills you can OD on but they don't make fatal pills. That was a pretty small bag of pills to OD , 2 kids 1 teen and 1 adult. There are not too many things that one pill would kill a small child that would also not get you high.
     
  19. EvilDeadJ

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    tons of stuff that can be put into capsules including potassium cyanide ( L-pills in ww2) can kill a person in minutes

    I agree with you in that I think he thought the power pills might be something that could get him high.. possibly pain medication or something similar... an addict's thinking veers toward getting high and drugs, this affects their reasoning/cognitive skills, since their brain is telling them they need the drug to survive.
     
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  20. mtito914

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    Maybe Nick is indirectly responsible for Willa dying...right then and there.. but make no mistake, she was dead before Nick got there.

    Any way you slice it the Dad is responsible for her death.
     

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