No, I used to smoke but I quit years ago. Because I wanted to though, not because of all that other stuff. I just didn't enjoy it anymore.

 

A heart attack is a great incentive to quit!

 

No it isn't. If it was, you would only need to tell people that once, and they would stop. Something that might possibly happen in the distant future is no incentive.

 

My father smoked since he was 12. Sometimes up to 3 packs a day.
He died at the age of 83, of alzhimers. We were told his heart was quite strong for someone his age. And his lungs were good, considering he smoked.

Now, my brother, who does not smoke, had 4 by-pass', due to a bad heart.
I am not advocating for smokers, it's just the propaganda that the non smokers puts out is mostly BS.

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damn. I wish I could do that.

 

Yeah I agree with this too. I think nothing can happen to me. I have been smoking since I was 13 and I am now 44. Thinking what MIGHT happen....you're right. But I swear it's going to take something like that actually happening to actually make me quit.

 

I understand that mindset because i've seen it happen to my loved ones, but man it frustrates me so badly lol. My grandmother lived with my parents for her last few years of life while she suffered from emphysema and COPD...she couldn't breath on her own for several years before that and had to use an oxygen machine. My Dad witnessed all of this, and yet...puff puff puff. Also, my Uncle who is only a couple of years older than my Dad had a heart attack last year and immediately quit smoking and started a healthy diet. I guess now my Dad is just waiting for it to happen to him before he makes any changes.

Sorry i try not to let my disdain for smoking show too much, i don't want to offend smokers and i hear all the time how "i don't understand because you're not a smoker" but i just hate what it does to people.

 

Oh I agree. It's ridiculous how we all know exactly what we are facing, yet still long for that next cigarette. One of my worst fears is suffocation. Go figure.

 

Blegh. <--- said the cigarette smoker.

 

I used e-cigs to quit. Started with the full nicotine, then gradually lessened that until it was just vapor (no nicotine), then I could just give them up. Plus with e-cigs, you could just smoke as little or much as you wanted, where with cigs once you light them you feel like you have to smoke the whole thing. I was able to quit cigs then e-cigs within 2 months. Never looked back.

For me I think it was more the rituals of smoking than the actual smoking that was the issue.

 

Please provide evidence of a link between being a sanctuary state and a rise in crime. I don't see anything in the article to indicate that is the case, so you obviously have insider knowledge. In fact, the article says that not even all cities that fit the population requirements were counted, only those that reported data for all six years that were reviewed, so it could very well be that the reason California places so highly is better reporting?

And how do you explain the rise in crime in those places that are not sanctuary cities or states? Utah, Alaska, New Mexico, Washington, Texas and Colorado are all in the top 10 along with California. Washington state has 2 cities in the top 10.

 

So in other words you made it up, and it has no basis in reality or fact.

 

I think what @tink means is that you don't have proof that the high crime rate is due to the state having sanctuary cities. Which is what you alluded to.

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California is not, at present, a "Sanctuary State".

Apparently, that may change: In a Trump-defying move, California's Senate passes sanctuary state bill

Personally, I would prefer the exceptions expanded to include anyone convicted of anything, felony or misdemeanor.