The Governor by far has had the biggest impact on the group. Not only did Rick lose his wife and daughter, Maggie lost Hershel and her brother.. Like you pointed out the numbers are astounding, If only for that I'd say The Governor was more effective as A villain. He won, If only for A moment... He defeated Rick and forced them to flee. Negan won't defeat Rick, And I don't think Negan will have the sort of lasting effects that The Governor has had on the whole group.

 

Oh yeah, I think Negans gonna be A threat for some time... I actually like this arc more than the Woodbury v. Prison arc, The characters are more hardened and interesting IMO. I'll be very interested to see where this whole Ezekiel/Rick/Negan/Dwight story goes... I hate Dwight though, He killed my favorite character. RIP Abraham.

 

Negan would crush the governor not that i dislike the gov. i just think Negan right now is all kinds of crazy but still in control and the Gov. had lost his grip i mean it was his own people that ended him not even ricks group

 

The governor has done more damage, but I like Negan more...

 

Me too. He's got more depth to him I think.

 

When Carl went to The Saviors' base and killed 5 or 6 of them with the intention of killing Negan, Negan let him go untouched. If Carl had done this in Woodbury, The Governor definitely would have mutilated somehow or even killed him.

 

Agreed. But this is only the beginning, we'll see a lot more from Negan. It was weird though how he let him untouched... Probably because he's just a kid. He has also wanted to show to Rick and the others that he could be reasonable, how he said... But for how long, that's the question.

 

Well, I think Negan is capable of being a bigger threat than The Governor, but unlike The Governor (who didn't try negotiating and just wanted to kill everyone) he just wants to have total control and won't cause any violence against anyone (unless you sleep with one his "wives" or disobey him, then your pretty much f**ked).

 

True. If you follow his rules - he will be reasonable, and if you don't - it could get real ugly.

 

It's why I like Negan more he's not psycho for the sake of being psycho.

 

The Governor and Began are both strong villains but Began can be worse but will actually negotiate unlike the Governor which if you don't agree with him he will just kill you instead.

 

I like this discussion a lot more than I thought I would. Now I'm going to throw out that I haven't read any companion material so the Gov's book is right out. However from the comics, I would say that the Gov has the advantage in some aspects. For instance he didn't even bother to extend a glad hand. He took in Rick,Glenn, and Michonne and went right for the torture(well the promise of death then torture).

Negan on the other hand, once he got involved talked first. Actually he sent several messages first before bringing out the violence. I think he understands that the threat is just as powerful as the deed. Making him the more cerebral of the two. Heck the Gov didn't even understand that his vendetta against team prison wouldn't carry to his people. Negan gets that his lieutenants work for him out of fear. I mean he burned half of Dwight's face off and he still considers Dwight "loyal".

Another example would be Negan and Carl. The Gov wouldn't have let Carl go, and Negan didn't do it out of pity or compassion. He knows what comes next. [MENTION=1346]TheILLness[/MENTION] mentioned that the Gov and Negan might be polar opposites. I think Rick and the Gov were polar opposites and that Rick and Negan share a commonality. I just think Rick took longer to reach some of the points that Negan has already become comfortable with. We might even see Rick slip a little into a Negan like role if Kirkman isn't careful with the direction Rick is going.

Overall these are some very well written bad guys. The Gov is way more erratic than Negan though and I believe that had the Gov not been taken out by his own people that Negan certainly could have had that fate planned for him. That's just the kind of S.O.B. he is and he gets my vote for best villain of TWD thus far.

 

Negan is a weird antagonist to me because he does not seem evil, just uses his power and numbers in his group to scare people into giving him supplies. I still think that all the surrounding communities like the hilltop, Ezekial's group and the rest of them should team up and take out The Saviors.

 

Negan because he is a very unconventional villian, and sometimes he is kinda funny when he is starts cursing senseless lol, The Governor was a great villian but more typical (but he did more damage, I'll give you that), but Negan

 

I like the character Negan. I actually just started re-reading. Sometimes simple characters are too simple and complex characters are too complex. I think Robert Kirkman started the whole thing right. I heard there's a video game for xbox ?

 

Good read i like Negan a lot it's not to say he is better he simply make me laugh and that is what tipped the scales in his favor. I agree with a lot of what you said you have some really great point but i think one major factor is missing and that is that Rick's group is tired.The Gov. really did a number on them they lost their safety of the prison had to go back on the road found safety again and once again the rug was ripped out from under them. Michonne was ready to never take her katana down again Maggie and Glenn wanted to move to the hilltop for a more stable home life even Abraham felt relaxed enough to say to Rosita beat it we don't have to be together so we won't. And Negan rolls in and deals them a heavy blow right out of the gate that would shock the hell out of me. I think one key things to remember about the Gov. is he was insane and that is what pushed him to do the things he did and it also pushed him too far. Either way it will be fun to read

 

There are 2 TWD games. The good one is: The Walking Dead (A point/click adventure by TellTale Games) . The bad one (which isn't completely bad but not really good either) is The Walking Dead: Survival Instinct. The TellTale game is excellent and covers a lot of pre Atlanta story but for a completely different group. Survival Instinct is a first person shooter based on Daryl/Merle's pre-Atlanta days.