Believe me, the democrats are no better than the republicans, they're just in different pockets. But either way your government is not yours, and neither side gives a damn about the average American. They are all about winning and power, and that's it.

 

I'll vote the day a worthy man/woman runs. So I guess I'll never be voting.

 

I understand your point. I believe that rank and file Republicans like the idea of standing up to unions and degrading them. To the rank and file, Walker earned a merit badge by standing up to the unions. Now, so you understand what I am saying, this does not mean it will carry well with the general public or the undecided voters. Don't read anything else into what I type.

 

Being from Wisconsin, and still having family there. Some think Walker is great. Others say he was an awful governor.

The whole public union thing may have lowered taxes, but now people have higher water, gas, fire and rescue bills. Along with a few others.

 

I think the Iraq and Libyan incursions were made for the same basic reason--to impose American values of freedom and democracy on the region. But you said that Benghazi was "worse", and I don't agree with that part. That's all.

I also don't agree that the Iraq invasion was "urgent". It was 18 months between 9/11 and our invasion of Iraq. When Colin Powell made his case at the United Nations, he presented no evidence that Saddam had given aid and comfort to OBL, or that he was making plans to use WMDs anytime soon. I happen to think that on a strictly legal basis, we had the right to invade after Saddam kicked out the weapons inspectors in 1998, but that 5-year gap points to the fact that the situation was not urgent. I still fault the Bush administration for the lack of planning for the post-Saddam era, especially when it comes to the number of troops we were going to have to keep there, and for how long. I also doubt that there was anybody in the Bush administration who gave serious thought to the prospect that removing Saddam Hussein would strengthen the Iranians.

Our involvement in the Libyan situation was different from Iraq in three important ways. First, we didn't initiate the events there. Second, the timeline was a lot shorter--the internal uprising began in February 2011 and the no-fly zone was imposed 30 days later. Third, we didn't use ground combat troops, although I understand that we had (and still have) Special Forces there. I suppose it is more apt to compare the Libyan incursion to our initial invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, or even the first Gulf War in 1990, since they happened under exigent circumstances. Along those lines I would couple the invasion of Iraq in 2003 with the "surge" in Afghanistan in 2009.

In the end, I can't really say whether any of these foreign entanglements were right or wrong. Japan, South Korea, Germany, and any number of former Warsaw Pact nations are democracies because of American military power, and those transitions were all pretty damn messy. If we end up having a rapprochement of sorts with the Iranians, who I consider our greatest adversary, then maybe the good will outweigh the bad.

 

Both parties are silly, but right now I'm having fun watching the republican party completely self destruct. Its like watching a bunch of chimpanzees fighting over a hot pocket. And its even funnier because the viewer knows that its not even a popular flavor of hot pocket, but rather something like sauerkraut and Sweet Gherkins.

 

I think Ross Perot's tenure was likely very entertaining, but I was only 88 then, and not following politics.

 

I'm Canadian and we have an election coming up yet I'm 1000x more invested into the American one, lol.

This Onion article basically sums up my feelings on this:

http://www.theonion.com/blogpost/admit-it-you-people-want-see-how-far-goes-dont-you-50895

 

It's just silly watching the Republicans alienate large segments of the populace. I almost wonder if they don't want to win.

 

With the "success" of Trump some Republican candidates feel as if they can only get attention by doubling down on crazy.

CBS should've just had Big Brother GOP this season and put all of the Republican candidates in the Big Brother house. The eventual nominee of the party would be the last one standing and it'd save all of the money wasted on the campaigns and the country would be safe because we'd know where these people are at all times.

 

Joe Biden is considering running for President. Be afraid. Be very afraid. :zombies_shocked:

 

Nye / Degrasse Tyson 2016

 

The first Republican Presidential Debate is tonight at 9:00 PM on Fox News.

 

Trump isn't promising to support the Republican candidate or that he won't run as an independent. I love it.

 

Doesn't matter if you agree with him or not, he don't give a shit. I think his campaign slogan should be TRUMP 2016: f*ck your feelings! You know he must be doing something right when both the GOP & the DNC hate him.

 

I thought Megyn Kelly asking Donald Trump if he was a misogynist was bullshit. Nobody ever asks that to Bill Clinton or the Kennedys.