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Ty survives the herd, yet Rick kicks his ass. How?

Discussion in 'Episode 403 - Isolation' started by steenkash, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Agree. I am fine with the first part where he punches Rick because it's grieving, not a great role model, but understandable. But later even after he settles down he's shown he's still not wired right. That can be trouble. Hope he's not "Crazy Rick II".
     
  2. Stealth

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    More like Crazy Shane II. He wants the person responsible brought to HIM. Also, he's going on about how Rick thinks murder is okay.

    Tyreese was hanging out in Woodbury while the Governor openly planned to attack the prison. He was there guarding the wall when Rick and crew arrived. He's lucky he was taken in by the prison group in the first place.
     
  3. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    You're right, more like Crazy Shane. On the Governor though, remember that Rick basically kicked them out when he was nuts. I wouldn't hold it against them that they went over to the next town and settled in. It's not like they were in the group that was shooting AT Rick, and Rick's group took in plenty of woodburians.
     
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    True. But I was just pointing it out as an example of a lack of gratitude for being taken in. Rick and Lori were very grateful to Hershel for being on the farm but Shane wanted things his way there, and really didn't respect Hershel. Tyreese is showing the same lack of gratitude. Rick reached out to him twice and Tyreese is still acting crazy and challenging Rick.
     
  5. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    Not to change the direction of the thread, but now there are TWO Black Males on the show. That's one more than TWD allows, so something has to happen. LOL, probably Medic Guy will die though, not Tyreese. That's t.v. for you.
     
  6. The Walking Cas

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    The producer are trying not to be racist I guess. Or something like that ;P
     
  7. Neuropyramidal

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    If they really want to be fair, we need more people with handlebar mustaches!! :p
     
  8. The Walking Cas

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    and cooking skills
     
  9. ShaneWentInRaw

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    Did you watch the same episode as everyone else? When you say Rick kicks his ass, it kinda makes it seems as if Rick fought Ty with no help. Watch the episode closely, Ty was in rage of emotions. Daryl and Rick tried calming him down but there is not much you can do or say when someone looses their loved one in a violent manner. They kept grabbing him and Rick sent him overboard by stating she wouldn't want you being like this as if he knew her like Ty did. Ty punched Rick two times and then was held back by Daryl. If you look closely you will see he is not resisting being held back. It is then when Rick punches Ty while Ty's arms were held back. He wanted Rick to retaliate so that he could project his pain from emotional to physical but even Rick's rage on him could not overcome the pain of losing his girlfriend. Which is why he was crying on the floor! He was crying on the floor because he lost a loved one, not because he lost the fight. Analyze the situation for what it is and quit saying Ty got his ass whipped. It was a connection of their pain of losing their loved one. Ty, Daryl, and Rick are probably the most humane people in the show. Ty's anger came from losing his girlfriend in a inhumane manner. He doesn't even know if they were killed before they turned which is why he is so angry.
     
  10. ShaneWentInRaw

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    There is no similarity to Shane and Ty in that manner. Come on now! Shane banged his wife and wanted to be the alpha male of the group. He wanted his wife, and he wanted to be the leader over Rick. He challenged Rick in every way when it came to his leadership, treating his wife, as well as raising Carl. Ty is making use of himself in the group. He isn't challenging Rick's leadership, he is challenging his priority and morals when it comes to the people in the prison. Ty is not acting crazy for no reason. The man believes his girlfriend was murdered and not given a proper burial without even noticing the victims loved ones. There's no telling if Carol killed them before they turned or not. I believe he is gonna take time to heal just as Rick needed time.
     
  11. ShaneWentInRaw

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    Sigh. I'm probably wasting my effort but I'll say this. If you were in that situation and your girlfriend in a zombie apocalypse was murdered, dragged, and burned by someone in the group, How would you react? Ty wasn't notified about his girlfriend's death? He doesn't even know if she turned. Remember...Ty's gf was one of the first people to be pronounced sick. It was only then later in the episode that the group realized a lot of people were sick. Carol didn't kill that little girl that was sick now did she. She didn't kill Glen. She more than likely wanted to seize the sickness and did so by killing and burning the sick people in those cells before she realized more people were sick. So how could you say you were happy to see Ty get beat. He was lashing out because he felt that no one cared enough to check on his gf and no one wasnt showing any passion in finding out who would do something like that. Rick said something that he shouldnt have said. He spoke as if he was as close to Ty's gf as Ty was which is why he got punched. He had no right to speak as if he knew what she wanted. But it is clear, Ty's anger got the best out of him so I'm not mad at Rick's retaliation. If you watch close enough, you will see Ty wanted Rick's retaliation.
     
  12. ShaneWentInRaw

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    Let's be clear. Ty did not underestimate Rick or Daryl. It could have been King kong in front of Ty and Ty would have lashed out the same way. He wasn't trying to bully Daryl or Rick, he was conflicted with not knowing who killed his gf and why his girlfriend was killed without him being notified. Deep down, Ty believed Rick or one of Rick's memebers from his camp had something to do with it and that Ty would be left out of the loop of knowing who did it. He lashed out because he knows that more than likely he will never know what really happened to his girlfriend. He doesn't know if she turned, or if she was raped etc. He had no clue of what happened so he lashed out. The fact that somebody did not give them a proper burial is what really drove him over the edge.
     
  13. Reflexx

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    If a smaller, but adequately strong, person gets a really good punch on your chin, you're likely going down.

    Ty was being held and Rick hit him right on the button.
     
  14. Juggernaut

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    You don't need to be 300lb and 7 feet tall to be a good fighter. I've seen skinny dudes take down someone twice their size on more than one occasion.
     
  15. HeisenKramer

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    In the Comics T won the fight.
     
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    Daryl was holding Tyrese back when Rick got the knockout shot in.
     
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    he did try, then got man handled lol
     

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