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Discussion in 'Debaters' started by westwingnut, Dec 22, 2016.

  1. Sharpie61

    Sharpie61 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if Rogue is legit either. But I do know a lot of scientific accounts are now "rogue".
    Noaa being one of them. My family is updated by them, during hurricane season.
     
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    noaa needs a rouge account? because trump issued a blanket prohibition against all
    official federal accounts?
     
  3. Lindigo

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    excerpt from another story with pov that it may take years to sort this out in the courts. there will be less chaos in this administration if trump learns to first try to work with the republican congress to get legislation for what he wants.

    With what by legal standards was lightning speed, the judicial branch responded to President Trump’s immigration order on Saturday night, telling the president that he had moved too fast in barring people from seven mostly Muslim nations from entering the United States.

    But the court orders, from judges in at least four cities, were just the initial steps in litigation that may last for years.

    The orders were provisional, aimed at maintaining the status quo. They were limited in scope, applying only to people on their way to the United States or already here. They did not rule on the larger question of whether Mr. Trump’s executive order was lawful.

    They were a signal that the federal judiciary stands ready to assess the limits of presidential power over immigration policy. But they gave only the most preliminary hints about whether the courts will strike down part or all of Mr. Trump’s executive order.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...step-on-long-legal-path/ar-AAmnAVx?li=BBnb7Kz
     
  4. Sharpie61

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    Apparently. It is listed with all the other accounts as rogue. And the original account hasn't tweeted on my feed since this all started.
     
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  5. Lindigo

    Lindigo Well-Known Member

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    Twitter is demanding the nation #StopPresidentBannon.

    As confusion and anger swirled over President Trump's executive order to restrict people from seven Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, the president signed another order giving chief strategist Steve Bannon a seat on the National Security Council and limiting the roles of director of national intelligence and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ecurity-council-stoppresidentbannon/97214654/

    i wonder who wrote that order....

    also trump isn't going to bother to attend all of the meetings. why does the president need to see what is happening in the national security council meetings? pence can go instead.

    i enjoy the comments on this one.
     
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    https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/immigration
    "The President retains the ultimate decision making authority when determining the number of refugees to allow into the country during a given year."
    "Congress has complete authority over immigration. Presidential power does not extend beyond refugee policy. Except for questions regarding aliens' constitutional rights, the courts have generally found the immigration issue as nonjusticiable."
    Justiciability refers to the types of matters that the federal courts can adjudicate. If a case is "nonjusticiable." a federal court cannot hear it.
    This from the Cornell School of Law webpage about immigration law. More than likely these suits will be dismissed as they will be deemed nonjusticiable.It appears Trump is well within his Constitution rights as POTUS.
    He could stop all immigration if he so desired.
    "Franklin D. Roosevelt's Administration essentially closed to the country to immigration essentially during the Great depression, drastically reducing the numbers per country that could enter the United States."
    The State Department issues visas which is part of the executive branch and Trump is head of the executive branch. They have a max number they can issue but not so sure they have a min
     
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    thanks for the input, surviving. i don't know what to make of it all. i don't think four federal judges would issue stays if there wasn't something in legal question.

    maybe the exec order is overbroad and not letting people with green cards back in after a vacation isn't a strictly immigration issue, for example. maybe it is something like that. i just don't know.
     
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    I heard on our news tonight that Trump now issued that those with the proper green cards can stay. But that doesn't help the doctors wife, who was turned back, along with others who had the proper paperwork.
     
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    Now who'e playing the Nuclear War card?

    Trump: McCain and Graham 'looking to start WWIII'


    Funny, Donald Trump isn't afraid to talk tough when it comes to China.
     
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    My sister's boyfriend who she's lived with for about 8 years is Filipino and they went there a couple years back to visit family...the pics are gorgeous. Have you been there? Also I have a half Filipino niece on the way in February!! <3 <3

    Off topic, but I am excited :p ok carry on.


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  12. Lindigo

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    thanks. so it can't be that as the stays have not been lifted. but maybe it could be some quirk like that.

    i read that the president's wide authority over immigration is statutory and can therefore be reined in by legislation, i.e., the congress. ah, that whole balancing of power thing. better start trying to get along with them.
     
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    Nothing is off topic in the Thread of Boredom.

    Been there several times. In fact I became a fan of TWD from watching pirated copies of the first two seasons.
     
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    Another point of view concerning the Muslim ban expressed in a quote from an article by Nathan Wellman appearing in U.S. Uncut:

    Patrick Skinner, a former CIA counterterrorism case officer, harshly condemned the ban:

    “Not only is it immoral and stupid, it’s also counterproductive. We’ve got military, intelligence, and diplomatic personnel on the ground right now in Syria, Libya, and Iraq who are working side by side with the people, embedded in combat, and training and advising. At no time in the US’s history have we depended more on local—and I mean local—partnerships for counterterrorism. We need people in Al Bab, Syria; we depend on people in a certain part of eastern Mosul, Iraq; in Cert, Libya. At the exact moment we need them most, we’re telling these people, ‘Get screwed.’”

    http://usuncut.com/news/astonishing-incompetence-legal-experts-utterly-shred-trumps-muslim-ban/

    Are we more safe or less safe? Hmmmm..........
     
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    Trump treasury pick Mnuchin misled Senate on foreclosures, Ohio cases show

    A key passage: "In three local cases, a judge dismissed OneWest foreclosure proceedings specifically based on inaccurate robo-signings."

     
  17. Stealth

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    Many government agencies have formed alternate accounts because they are being censored. It all started with the National Park Service and it's taken off from there. Crazy times and we're just 10 days into this regime.
     
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    FDR did the same thing to the Japanese.

    Hitler was a socialist. The ideas of the Liberals were exactly the same as Hitler. State run food banks, state run health, state run everything. You peed when the State told you too. That is what Liberals want. EXCEPT the murders.
     
  20. hcopenhagenh

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    You people are missing the point entirely on Mexico paying for the wall.

    It isn't fair trade with Mexico. They Tariff everything we send to their country. We also pay them Billions in for relief, Travel and Tourism, Economy, and Upkeep of their country. They spend the money to attract our American companies to come to Mexico and give their citizens jobs. Essentially, we are paying for US companies to go to Mexico and then send goods back with no taxes or Tariffs. Mexico killed us on negations. They are having their cake and eating it too.

    The Trump Administration can get Mexico to build the wall one of two ways, and they will pay for the wall. They will either tariff/tax the products coming into the US or they will stop giving them Billions in relief funds.

    This will also bring American jobs home and create jobs, as well as Build a wall to keep the illegals out. It really isn't brain surgery people.

    BTW.... Corona is a horrible beer.
     

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