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Which country would you choose?

Discussion in 'General Discussion / Off-Topic' started by Sulq, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. Undercase

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    Nah, I'm not a fan of ridiculous video game and internet censorship.
     
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    Antarctica! The emperor penguin would rule over all humans.

    Canada. Why? The government pays for medicine. In other words, no hospital bills. This isn't the only reason, though. This is just one of my biggest reasons. The list is huge and can go on and on. Also, whoever said Norway, i agree. Tbh though, every country has its ups and downs and no government can ever be truly "successful". All in all, one nation ruling the planet would not end well even if it was the best of countries there's no way they could please over 6 billion people successfully.

    Btw i'm from USA and i can say i wouldn't want our country ruling the world. Even though we try by getting involved with every other country's affairs.
     
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    We don't have any internet censorship? As for the videogame issue we now have an R18 rating and all I did before was to buy off Ebay games like MK and got around any stupid politicians rules.
     
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    Don't get me wrong, it's not China-level or anything, but as far as first world nations go, it's definitely strict across entertainment media.

    Except if Australia made all of the rules for the world, then there'd be no other countries with differing values and ratings to import them from to begin with. As such, they'd never even get made in the first place.
     
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    Two words: David Cameron. Another two words: Ed Millaband. I love Britain but the world would fall apart with these two stupid dicks.

    This, I love Obama and you're right, their women are just amazing. I'd marry one just for the accent, a nice Californian one. I could live with that for the rest of my life.

    So yeah either USA or Germany since their economy isn't doing too bad really.
     
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    As someone who's English but lives in France, I (like other foreigners in France) have a completely different outlook on this country. The French know what's wrong with their country. But will they do anything about it? No! So they vote in François Holland, a socialist who thinks taxing the little guy to pay for the Parliaments houses is a good idea.

    I'd pick someone like Germany. They've come along way from WWII, even if they are the only real superpower in Europe at the moment. They know how to get the population motivated and working. Only problem is they have more job offers than their adult population...
     
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    I'd say 'Murica but I live there, so I'll just go ahead and say 'Murica anyway.
     
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    The Scandinavian model has shown to work really well, in my opinion.
     
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    idk probly somalia or turkey
     
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    Norway. I would like a society with free education and health care so that everyone has a chance to do their best
     
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    But then how do you define people? Everyone as equal? A Utopia?
     
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    Aryans or Dirty Peasants.
     
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    No, we all know that equality of outcomes is impossible. I was purposeful in using the word "chance". An egalitarian utopia is at direct odds with human nature, but giving everyone an equal footing and allowing them to pursue something they enjoy would allow for those who are smart and motivated to go far, in whatever they chose to do.

    Equality of outcomes will never work. Equality of opportunity could make the best society possible.
     
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    Hopefully.

    Kinda like that now. At least in the U.S. and other first world countries. If you choose to, you can make something of yourself.

    We need poor simple workers content with their jobs, without them who would do the shitty jobs? Ms. Teacher lady or Mr. Doctor man? Maybe Ms. Architecture lady or Mr. Lawyer man?
     
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    Actually it's really not. Depending on factors like current family socioeconomic status, where you live, and what race you are, you have a huge variation in your chances of succeeding in life.

    We'd like to pretend that there are equal opportunities in North America, but there aren't, in terms of everyone being given a chance to strive ("If you choose to").

    For instance, in Canada (and I think the US) public schools are funded by property tax, so if you're living in a poor neighborhood you're guaranteed to go to a school with worse funding and poorer resources. Kids are starting off at a clear disadvantage depending on where their parents decided or were able to move.

    As for medical care, in Canada I can walk into literally any hospital in Ontario (my home province), see a doctor, and get treatment or at least being the process. In the US a family may not have medical insurance from their job, or a parent may have huge stress to keep working a job to keep insurance, even if they themselves are sick. Or they may be forced by the HMO to go to a certain hospital and see particular doctors - or waste time getting sicker because you suddenly have to see a different doctor - making treatment prohibitively difficult depending on where all these things are located. In any of these cases it's much harder to live your life and excel at your career.

    These are two very brief and "basic" examples, but the difference in performance between socioeconomic classes is huge, setting people at an advantage or disadvantage before they've even begun to attend school. That's what I mean by finding a real equality of opportunity.

    You're right, some people won't be teachers and doctors and lawyers, because maybe they don't excel at academics, etc. But we shouldn't force them into these jobs because they came from backwoods Appalachia or downtown Detroit, etc.
     
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    You sound like a commie...
     
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    *note: I'm at work, so I haven't watched that video, so I don't know if you're being serious or joking. Regardless...*

    Actually I'm categorically not a commie, based on the extremely long posts I just made.

    Communism is concerned with equality of outcomes, where everyone works, then "takes out" only what they need. This directly contradicts human nature and will never work.

    What I advocate for is equality of opportunity, where everyone gets a roughly equal education and support in their lives (particularly early on), and can be assured of basic quality of life. Then they are given the chance to strive as high as they want/can make it to attain an even better quality of life, or land somewhere in the middle.
     
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    You sound like a neo commie.

    And yes I'm serious,that video expresses my current attitude toward you.
     
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    And yet you clearly don't actually know what communism means...

    I'm just sharing my thoughts. If you would like to share yours in a calm way which expresses your attitudes and what you know, I would be happy to read it and discuss.

    If you're going to call me names and dismiss me, then I can only say that I pity you and hope you educate yourself.
     

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