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Who is at fault for the deaths in this episode?

Discussion in 'Episode 609 - No Way Out' started by jackson04, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. jackson04

    jackson04 Active Member

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    Many can be to blame...

    Was it Jessie's fault Sam died or Carol's? Maybe neither.

    Was Morgan at fault for any deaths in this episode?

    Was Michonne at fault for Carl getting his eye shot out? (Rewatch this clip) We do know she is certainly at fault for Ron's death but for good cause.

    Carol is at fault for Wolf's death, but in the end, was he deserving of his death? Did he make a turn-around?

    Thoughts???
     
  2. Ionut

    Ionut Active Member

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    Jessie is mostly at fault for her kid's being the way that they were.

    Morgan is mostly at fault for the horde reaching Alexandria in both leaving the Wolves alive to begin with in S5 and then letting them go in S6x02 so they could disable the RV Rick had. This is a big one.
     
  3. 8307c4

    8307c4 Well-Known Member

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    It's Pewdie Pie's fault.
     
  4. Laurieellen

    Laurieellen Well-Known Member

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    I blame Bush.
     
  5. HondaS2kXD

    HondaS2kXD Well-Known Member

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    It's Jessie's fault Sam died because she should've sent him to the church with Gabe. That being said he might've still freaked out and caused Gabe and Judith to die then. So, then not only would he have not freaked out in front of Jessie and Ron but we would've also lost Judith. Win-win.

    Morgan's impact is (likely deliberately) ambiguous in this episode. Had it not been for his punkassedness, Denise wouldn't have been kidnapped. But then... Would she have been at the infirmary? Or would she have the courage to save Carl? *suspensful mysterious music outro*

    Michonne is not at fault for Carl's eye. If anything, she stopped Ron from outright killing both of them.

    Carol's impact is ambiguous as Morgan's, and for similar reasons. I think the wolf had rounded a corner, perhaps. Denise was to him as Tabitha was to Morgan-- his first good deed in a long line of bad. That being said, saving someone from a bite is hit and miss. She'd have to amputate, FAST, and all the while dealing with a kid who's been shot in the face. And even then it's hard to say whether he would survive the amputation alone due to already being weakened by another infection.

    So, to sum all of this up... Yeah, [MENTION=1993]8307c4[/MENTION]. It's basically pewdiepie's fault.
     
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    and138 Well-Known Member

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    It is the Wolves fault for attacking Alexandria, driving a truck through the wall, and sounding a horn.

    It is Ron's fault for pointing a gun at Rick.
     
  7. ltomlinson31

    ltomlinson31 Well-Known Member

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    Gimple and Kirkman.
     
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    batongal Active Member

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    It's Daryl's fault. He opened the door for a damn dog!
     
  9. campbellj21

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    I think Carol takes some of the blame for Sam, but most of that falls on Jessie. She should've made him go with Gabriel or she should've taken him and Judith to the church and Gabriel could've gone to help lead the walkers away.

    Michonne could've tried to chop off Ron's hand instead of stabbing him, but that's really her only other option there.

    Morgan has definitely caused a lot of deaths, but his saving Daryll came back to be beneficial thus far, Daryll then went on to save Sasha and Abraham, who then saved Glenn.
     
  10. Billy Pilgrim

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    Anybody who doesn't die is mostly just lucky. Deserve, fault and blame really have very little to do with it in such a fraught environment. Ultimately you need to be able to rely on yourself and to take responsibility for your own circumstances. If you're dumb enough to trust Morgan then you can't really be surprised when you die as a result. If you piss Carol off by threatening her family and you end up dead, ditto. If you die in the middle of ma giant herd of walkers, you can't really be feel too hard done by if you end up dead.
     
  11. LadyGrimes

    LadyGrimes Well-Known Member

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    Obama Care again
     
  12. Sharpie61

    Sharpie61 Well-Known Member

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    I'm getting a sense of deja vu
     
  13. Sharpie61

    Sharpie61 Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't anyone blaming Rick? He was the one to come up with the plan on taking children out amongst the walkers.
     
  14. Coreenfw

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    well, then, i blame Obama.... Lol
     
  15. Coreenfw

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    Yes, especially that unstable little shit, Sam.....
     
  16. Laurieellen

    Laurieellen Well-Known Member

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    I like you.
    The real person to blame here is Kirkman.
     
  17. AAG331

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    Ultimately, the fault goes on the walkers.
     
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    You could make a case that Pete was partially to blame. His abuse contributed to Sam being weak and Ron being angsty at the very least.
     
  19. Kilroy was here

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    A lot of things have many causes, but of the above the only one I'd say is really responsible is Michonne for Carl's eye. The stroke she used to kill Ron would NOT have stopped a walker, so it's not something she does normally, like decapitate them. If she would have done what she normally does, Ron wouldn't have time to have shot Carl, so she's partially at fault. Who knows, maybe Ron wasn't really going to shoot, and he just spasmed at the end.

    The Wolf tortured and killed people as a way of life. He deserved what he got. His victims didn't get a chance to make a turn-around.
     

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