Who's Still Around?

Morgotha · Mar 4, 2021

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Yeah and then news of the actors choosing to leave just put the nail in the coffin for a lot of folks as a lot of people watch shows just as much for the characters as they do for the plot. Even though the show has improved quite a bit since seasons 7 and 8 it is just too late. People have moved on from the show at this point (TWD isn't like Star Wars or a Superhero show where people will put up with anything because they have been a fan since they were 5 years old).

As far as Negan goes he definitely was one of the main things that drove people away from the show but I really do think he could have been a really cool villain if they just wrote him differently. They made a big mistake in thinking that comic Negan would transfer over well to live action. Negan was popular in the comic because people still had the ability to use their imagination where as when they saw that portrayed in live action and they didn't have the ability to use their imagination he was just a goof ball swinging his bat around and it was extremely difficult to take him as seriously as the show wanted the audience to take him. They should have made the live action Negan far more serious. I wonder if JDM ever thought that would work........or maybe he was just having fun acting like a goofball.

That is one reason why I am pretty interested in the upcoming Last of Us series in seeing how it handles its source material. Will they follow all the same beats that TWD did with its source material or just use the source material as a rough outline but largely just do their own thing. Whatever they do the Last of Us story is quite a bit more grounded than the TWD comic was so the source material should transfer over better to live action then the TWD comic material did.
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All I can say is if they bring Lori back they'll get me to watch, who cares how much sense it makes?

southernlady · Mar 4, 2021

I'm still around - from time to time

Stealth · Mar 5, 2021

lastcat3 said: ↑

Yeah and then news of the actors choosing to leave just put the nail in the coffin for a lot of folks as a lot of people watch shows just as much for the characters as they do for the plot. Even though the show has improved quite a bit since seasons 7 and 8 it is just too late. People have moved on from the show at this point (TWD isn't like Star Wars or a Superhero show where people will put up with anything because they have been a fan since they were 5 years old).

As far as Negan goes he definitely was one of the main things that drove people away from the show but I really do think he could have been a really cool villain if they just wrote him differently. They made a big mistake in thinking that comic Negan would transfer over well to live action. Negan was popular in the comic because people still had the ability to use their imagination where as when they saw that portrayed in live action and they didn't have the ability to use their imagination he was just a goof ball swinging his bat around and it was extremely difficult to take him as seriously as the show wanted the audience to take him. They should have made the live action Negan far more serious. I wonder if JDM ever thought that would work........or maybe he was just having fun acting like a goofball.

That is one reason why I am pretty interested in the upcoming Last of Us series in seeing how it handles its source material. Will they follow all the same beats that TWD did with its source material or just use the source material as a rough outline but largely just do their own thing. Whatever they do the Last of Us story is quite a bit more grounded than the TWD comic was so the source material should transfer over better to live action then the TWD comic material did.
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Negan is one of those rare instances that the character was encumbered by both the writing and the actor. JDM pushed it too far over the top. A lower key Negan would've been more ominous and threatening. I like the way he handles the role now. Previously it was like he was the post-apocalypse Joker.

Another area where they hurt the franchise was with the spinoffs. They oversaturated viewers. They should've waited until the show was nearly finished with its run to start something new, or gone anthology style. Each season could've been the backstory of a departed character. There's talk of a Governor spinoff for a season. That would've been better a few years back.

I remember watching Fear that first season and thinking, this is great we'll see the breakdown of society that we didn't see in TWD. Then they jumped through that in one episode and we were basically where we were in Season 1 of TWD.

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