She tells Mel that she lived like they do but found a better way. So I don't think she's interested in going full savage on them, choosing to go about business as is usual and wait them out.

Also figure she's aware that Mel knows more about them than she knows about them. So attacking them might be suicide.

 

So far they haven't really done anything besides use vague threats. Even when Madison & Nick run into the guy at the house taking supplies he doesn't pull a weapon on them like Naomi did. Madison & Co. aren't in the mindset of wiping out groups of people right now, even ones that act suspicious at first. They are understanding to the fact that the apocalypse does things to people and makes them act in ways that are unsavory.

Of course this will change with whatever ends up unfolding with the vultures.

 

So far they been no threat? Beside sabotage, spying, embargoing them and taunting them with food? Scavengning anything before they can and seemingly also done some shady shit out there? They deserve nothing but violence.

 

People have grown too use to the TWD storytelling. Rather you like how people act in Fear or not it is a far more realistic approach to an appocalypse than TWD is. So yes I totally buy Madison not wanting to go in all guns blazing.

TWD is a very gimmicky show that relies too much on action pieces. Fear is a much closer representation of how things would go in a real appocalypse than TWD is.

 

So I'm not clear on what exactly The Vultures do in terms of making a group collapse vs actually killing them off.

It is suggested that the Vultures actually caused the Oil Tank group to die by making one of the tanks explode. Is this correct?

Regarding our/Diamond group, did Charlie sabotage the crops by introducing weevils? Again its been suggested but is it a certainty?

Or does the most that the Vultures do is strip the surrounding area of supplies denying the local group from those supplies, that being the cause of the group's collapse?

 

no one knows yet

 

Yes, you can fully and pretty safely ASSUME that the vultures had something to do with the collapse of the group they're presently surrounding, and the reason I say it is they're not sitting out there for no good reason. Think about it, how profitable would it be, for them to just "sit out" every group until they died of their own doings? Come on, that could take years, do you really think this group of "vultures" is stupid?
Again, they're not sitting out camping the group for no good reason.
They have most certainly done something to "help" along with their ultimate demise.

As for why not wipe them out?
Well...
It wasn't exactly a small group of them, it's a whole caravan and they do have weapons (and if they don't they certainly have the room for it).

 

I disagree with the part about TWD. Where we are in season 8 is a war...but I would say where Madison and Co are at the baseball diamond is somewhat similar to where rick and co were when they settled at the prison.

 

There was way to much fighting going on during AOW in the show. When communities of people have as few of people as they do in this universe they aren't going to be sending a significant portion of them out to get into gun battles with a very good chance of some/many of them getting killed.

There was a whole lot more fighting in the Alexandria/Savior dispute in the TV show than there was in the comics. And it was probably largely due to the fact that they felt they needed to have a lot of action in the show.

Gun fights really should be a last resort in this universe. Not the very first thing they do like AOW showed us.

 

I'm not sure how else you expect them to go about it when Negan had hundreds in his army. And please don't say "they should have shot Negan right off the bat," because if you watched all of Season 8 you know that wouldn't have helped matters.

 

Sidecomment: the AHK suddenly had tons of people emerge from the shadows in their communities to join the fight, it was confusing seeing dozens of new faces that came out of no where and I feel like there was no fight in 8x16 when it came to the battle. Guns exploded and classic Rick Negan fist fight while everyone ignored them. Regardless, glad the war is over, looking forward to Season 9 and communities rebuilding (filming photos at spoilthedead are exciting!)

 

The whole idea of the show savior's was pretty ridiculous. A group like that would have never made it that long into the appocalypse anyways. Their numbers would have been dwindled down through one random gunfight after another and even more likely they would have killed themselves off through their own infighting.

And if the show was even partially realistic a kook like Negan would have been assassinated long before we ever got to the point of AOW.

In the comics the Savior's had guns but they seldom used them. They used clubs and other forms of weapons until guns we're absolutely necessary.

 

AHK?

 

Alexandria, Hilltop, Kingdom

 

Thank you! Lol