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He’s suggesting we cant help all of them, therefore we should help none of them. We cant shelter all of our homeless but that doesn’t mean we should help none of them. We cant end world hunger but we cant stop trying. We cant help every vet but we cant let them all freeze and starve. We cant help every poor immigrant but we cant turn away the ones we can.


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Yeah, it was estimated that 300,000 Chinese immigrated to the US between1848 and 1882 but they made a great contribution.

I think that the immigration problem isn’t so cut and dry. Not everyone is trying to come to the US. According to the guy giving the lecture, we attract the most ambitious, the creme of the crop. He suggests that if they stayed in their own countries they could improve the lot of their fellow citizens.

Sadly, that usually isn’t the case. Autocratic and/or corrupt governments, ingrained criminal cartels, no chance for advancement, poor health care and/or sanitation, natural disasters, etc. play their part in convincing people that they can have a better life if they can only get in here. You would do the same for your family if you found yourself in similar circumstances.

No, we can’t take everyone but we can take quite a few. Again, it’s not something that has only occurred since Biden became president. We had a similar surge in 2019 when Trump was in office. We have to have a coordinated effort with other countries in the Americas to try and mitigate this situation.

I have been reading that talks with other countries have begun and VP Harris has been put in charge.

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/arti...co-discuss-immigration-in-high-level-meetings

https://www.cbs58.com/news/biden-as...rts-in-central-america-to-address-immigration

I’m interested to see what can be accomplished.

 

Except nobody is suggesting opening the floodgates. That is a Republican scare tactic where they suggest that if you don’t support every immigration policy they present, that you WANT unfettered immigration. If you don’t support every policy, you WANT unlimited drugs to enter the country. If you don’t support them, you WANT migrant women and children raped and sold into slavery. We don’t WANT any of those things. We simply disagree on how we are going to achieve the same goals that you say you want to achieve. What he does is try avoid the trap of insulting the migrants by saying they would serve their home country by staying and improving it. However as Purr pointed out, the opportunities to succeed are limited in their countries of origin. Realistically, the only time people are going to stop trying to come to the US, is when it is worse than the place they are leaving. NO. A few Mexicans aren’t going to ruin America. He is somehow also suggesting that one gum ball cant contribute to America but can somehow solve world poverty by staying home. Those are some brilliant Guatemalans.


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Is that why trump put Kushner in charge of everything? The buck never seemed to even reach his desk.


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Is that why Trump put Pence in charge of the Corona virus response?

Actually it’ll be a good showcase for her if she has some success for when she runs for President.

 

We’ve gone over this before but apparently you don’t like the answer. So in a nutshell from Wiki:

IRS estimates that about 6 million unauthorized immigrants file individual income tax returns each year. Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants payfederal, state, and local taxes.

 

Lol. The jury is still out on that one. Why are you suggesting trump is smart to hand everything over to a non elected family member who couldn’t pass a security clearance but Biden is passing the buck by assigning it to the person he was co-elected with? She was elected to be a hands on VP.


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According to your youtube guy, the “floodgate” isnt even a gum-ball. Its a half-bitten sprinkle. I agree they are depressing wages but they are also keeping cost down. Its a double edged sword. It sucks but thats a reality. If they are contributing to taxes, the services they use are at least partially, if not fully, paid by other migrants. It may be a wash. Yes, they should not be released without processing and Bidens policies create an expectation that everyone will be let in but that will subside just as it has every other time. There is a caravan EVERY year. Including the last four.


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Oh, please. It seems it’s an American obligation to try and get out of paying as much of your taxes as you can get away with, lol....and we’re talking about citizens born and raised in this country, not to mention companies. Seriously though, here’s a good look into who gets “benefits from the system.”

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxvox/how-many-americans-get-government-assistance-all-us

We probably don’t even have an accurate count of how many illegal immigrants are actually working in the country but if 6 million are filing income taxes etc. that’s great. They could all be working under the table and not paying anything at all. But are the other “half” really “taking benefits from the system”?

https://www.thebalance.com/welfare-programs-definition-and-list-3305759
Another myth accuses undocumented immigrants of coming to the U.S. to take advantage of welfare programs. However, most welfare programs only benefit legal immigrants. Even among legal immigrants, they must have a 10-year work history or be a member of the military before they are eligible to receive TANF, for instance.32 Other welfare programs have similar restrictions.


The only federal welfare program that benefits undocumented immigrants is Medicaid. Even then, the benefits are only allowed in cases of emergency. Kaiser Health News estimates that roughly $2 billion goes to hospitals every year to reimburse them for emergency room costs that are largely associated with undocumented immigrants.33

 

Ya trumps incompetent and passed everything to Kushy who was oblivious. That more of a lateral move. Bidens job is to put competent people in charge. Lets see If he did.


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So you are seeing a state that has LESS crime, homeless, drugs than 30 years ago?


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