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Did Sasha know about the coffin?

Discussion in 'Ep. 716 - The First Day of the Rest of Your Life' started by Singtress, Apr 3, 2017.

  1. Singtress

    Singtress Active Member

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    I guess (unless I flat out missed something) that we are simply assuming Negan told Sasha that part of the plan was for her to arrive in a coffin? As opposed to bringing her forward as a human weapon once they got there....?

    And... what could her Plan B have been if he hadn't let her hang out in the coffin (maybe assuming she might suffocate)?
     
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    I'm guessing so since she seemed to be aware of the plan that whole morning. I don't know exactly what role Sasha was going to play though.

    And yeah that's a good question on what Sasha would do if she wasn't allowed in the coffin. Potentially just wait for another opportunity.
     
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  3. Singtress

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    @Sully:
    What is your signature gif?
    I do NOT remember that scene. Who is Rick killing?
     
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    Season 5, Episode 3. "Four Walls and a Roof".

    It's where Rick kills Terminus leader Gareth in Gabriel's church. Remember in the Season 5 premiere Gareth asks Rick about the bag he buried, and Rick tells him that his red handled Machete is in there, and says "That's what I'm going to use to kill you".

    Sure enough two episodes later Rick has Gareth on his knees begging for his life. And that's where Rick goes "I already made you a promise" and whacks him in the head with his machete.
     
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  5. Singtress

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    Wow. I only KINDA remember that.
    I have a bad habit of watching after I take an Ambien...
     
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    I remember Sasha told Negan that she could get into the coffin all the way and Negan replied that she did not have to and appreciated her offer.
    So, Negan's original plan is that Sasha rode along and then just before reaching ASZ, Sasha would be put into the coffin so that Negan would present her being inside the coffin.

    My guess is, if Negan did not allow Sasha got into the coffin in the beginning, she would ask to ride in the same truck as Negan, preferably sitting next to him. I think this is playable if she insisted and made some excuse for it. Then, during the ride, she would just secretly take the pill, disguising as a drink of water. And hopefully she could turn into a walker quick enough to attack Negan.
     
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    But that couldn't have worked, because he would have seen she was dead...and stabbed her in the head or such. If they turned right away....
     
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    My guess is that the pill is like a sleeping pill and so after taking the pill, one falls asleep and then dies. So, the appearance is like she has dozed off. I remember Sasha told Negan, just before getting into the coffin, that she likes to take the time to get some rest. So, if she told Negan that she is going to take a nap, Negan would believe her, I think.
     
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    Hmmm.... yeah...that sure seems plausible.
     
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    AND...am I the only one who thought she looked more like a vampire than a walker?
     
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    She was still fresh and without injuries, so I guess, looking like a vampire fits.
    But as I wrote in another thread, I don't think, that Sasha mainly took the pill to kill Negan. Her main goal was to take herself out of the picture, so that Negan can't use her against her people. Doing that in the coffin is much easier than in a car, surrounded by saviors. Maybe they would have had her cuffed and blindfolded - after all, she showed cooperation, but also resentment and she isn't 'Negan' yet. So it mabye would not have been possible for her to take the pill, the coffin was the saver solution imo.
     
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    i also think that her main goal was to take herself out of the picture so that she could not be used to bargain with Rick's group. Had Rick seen her alive, he would have been forced to comply with Negan's wishes so that Sasha could be saved. Sasha knew that Negan would have nothing to hold over Rick if she was dead already. That being said, it's pretty dumb that no one thought it was a bad idea to stick her in a coffin for that entire ride. Although its not what really happened, I immediately thought that she might suffocate in there. Not only was she in the coffin, but they covered it in a tarp and tied it down. Not much air getting in there.
     
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    I agree, the coffin was a stupid idead from the saviors side. I'm still kind of amazed, that Negan allowed Sasha to take that risk.
     
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    I think that Sasha knew about the coffin from the beginning, and obviously so did Eugene because he gave her the iPod. Why would she need it if she wasn't about to be locked up in the coffin?

    The coffin was a stupid and superflouse idea. Negan showing Sasha outside a coffin would have had the same effect on Rick.
    And yes, the suffocating-thing was odd, too. They either would have thought of it from the beginning and Sasha had really suffocated or they knew that she would get enough air inside and Negan wouldn't believe Eugene's story for just a second. What's more, Eugene wouldn't have even claimed that.
    It's all very illogical.
     
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    LMAO!!!!! I feel your pain. But wow that was an awesome scene you can't remember. ;)
     
  16. Singtress

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    I am rewatching during the hiatus.

    The problem is...I still take Ambien.
    Maybe 3-4 rewatches will eventually equal an entire series.

    So...as a fellow Ambien user, I have to ask: Do you have any other ambien issues?
    I have a REALLY bad habit of Ambien shopping.
    I'll get a text from Amazon "Your order of "XXXX" has shipped!"
    And I freak. "What? I never ordered that! Someone is stealing my identity!!!"
    And then...a glimmer of a memory: "oh...yeah...I do kinda recall thinking it would be cool to have a pack of 800 mini Weeping Angels..."
     
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    OMG LMAOOOOOOO!!!! You crack me up girl.

    I just meant I have drank a little too much and don't remember certain parts of the episode. My rewatch always cures that though.

    Ambien is scary. I watched something on tv about someone who spread peanut butter on their phone and tried to eat it. I can't get through typing that sentence without laughing.

    "a pack of 800 mini weeping angels" Omg I am still giggling.
     
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    ummmm what? Ambien sounds pretty cool. I'll take it before reading some posts.
     
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    I just go to my favorite debater's thread and that seems to do the trick
     
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    Oh...so that's a normal side effect.
    Good to know.
     

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