That was a line of dialog said out of context, in a preview. You should at least wait until after the episode airs to throw Rick under the bus.

 

"Hey guys - I wanted to create a thread where we could all have an intelligent conversation about the latest episodes and discuss what we make of certain characters actions. Maybe even delving into the psychology of their decisions (all the while keeping in mind that it's a show and has many flaws for realistic interactions)."


I am not sure how intelligent This conversation could be with the whole concept based on a comic book.....but we can try! I am convinced the writer/writers are not attempting to cover every hole in the plot/story-line.

The scene we have of the dead being burned...The only evidence I can come up with is 1. a person did it.....2. used a 3/4 ton or larger ford truck. Find the truck, find the possible person. 3. used diesel as an accelerant (not that this matters).

 

I'm not throwing Rick under the bus. The writers are. They have been for some time. Even Andrew Lincoln said in a couple of different interviews that (1) playing Rick is masochistic and (2) he really hopes Rick being crazy is over. But I'm not talking about Rick being crazy. I'm talking about Rick being weak. Maybe its not abnormal weak, but its not the kind of weakness you expect, want or survive with in a leader. If these writers do not redeem Rick in the next two episodes, I am going to be really (really, really) upset. So, I guess I'm with you on not throwing Rick under the bus yet. (But if Rick ends up as road kill, don't blame me; blame the writers)

 

Rick is not going to be 'redeemed' this is how he is now, he is not going back to the old Rick, he is crazy he'll get better later but he will never be the same, that also carries a change on his moral and his actions, like backpack guy, and thinking about giving up on Michonne, I haven't seen the episode yet so I'd like to see it first and then judge, however Rick will be always one of my favorite characters no matter what.

 

Yeah, I pretty much feel the same way. I'd go one step further though and say that TWD's portrayal of Rick this season has been one of its strengths. It's only natural that he's going to go a bit crazy at this stage. He had to kill his best friend out of fear of the guy one day killing him. Then his wife (who may or may not be carrying the dead best friend's kid) dies in childbirth. Also when Lori died there was so much that was unresolved between them. Rick was even having a hard time talking to her at that point. And he also has a young son who had to shoot his Mom to keep her from turning.

I think it was a bold decision by the TWD to go this direction since you don't normally see this type of thing from the protagonist in a series. Like you, I think he's slowly coming out of it, but he's not going to be the same.

I am troubled too by him seriously considering the Michonne option, but will wait and see how it plays out.

 

Hey, great thread.

Hm..i never thought it was Morgan, but you`re words make it very possible for me.
Yes, i saw a few graffitis in this old building and my first thoughts were that it reminds me of Morgan.
THAT`s what TWD its all about..you, we dont knew it, but it is possible.
And i give it a bigger chance, that Morgan was there. These typical HAHA and Wake Up (somewhere in that building) are Morgan`s Style...now.

I really loved Tyrese in the comic and i was a little bit dissapointed, that he wasn`t really positioned since his first showing in this series.
But i really hope, that he comes more and more to the frontstory now.
I think he is not dumb, i would say is had "street-cleverness" which it makes him very comfortable in this type of world, with all the zombies and humans/"humans" around him.
I expect alot from him in the near episodes (and Michonne too)

As a Poster over me, i think Shane`s influence on this series is still big.
The first Rick was good, was human but naive in many times and the world changes him and all the other humans.
Even Morgan is a little bit crazy now and also other persons who are very rational at first.
Rick is not the perfect leader in my eye, but he is the best leader in the prison-group.
Glenn lost his way and routine he had when he was showed first and the episodes after.
He is in love, Maggie is his most important person now, so he is not free in mind (in my opinion), which it makes much more harder to think about the whole group and be a good leader.
He is not bad, he is the perfect Co-Leader behind Rick.
Hershel is also a quiet Soft-Leader, which correct if he sees it.

If i was the leader of the group, my first plan it so make a strategic withdrawal (thx 4 google, to find this word XD).
The group is always the most important. Andrea should come with me after the meeting (which i would say her in a private talk on the governourmeeting, that she has the option).

There are another Places to live, that could be "save" too.
Even if you must prepare and work for it.

I really think the Rick now is a mix out of the middle-Shane and middle-Rick..not perfect, but still better then before.
The gouvernor symbolise the darkside of this Rick-Leadership.
He is the bad, a REAL silent dicatorship (because of his smartness) - but effective, too.

There is not only one way to survive in this world. Not only one leadershipstrategy.
The humans changed alot..

 

Come on now, comics don't have anything to do with a person's intelligence! This is a show about reanimatied dead people, an impossible concept, and yet we all still all tune in and come to the forum. That being said, I do agree with you that the writers are not attempting to cover every hole in the plot/story line. There are a LOT of red herrings in this series.

 

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