Jesus told her to wear that shirt. How dare you.

 

I wasn't going to say anything, but my GOD what is she wearing.

 

She thought it was very patriotic.

 

Was it Jesus or was it Kmart who told her to wear that?

 

Pfffttt. It was Jesus and WalMart. Kmart had nothing to do with it.

 

She is on national tv now...so she is not slumming at Walmart...She has MOVED ON UP!

 

Federal Judge David Bunning has finally issued a ruling regarding the altered marriage licenses.

Kim Davis obeying orders in gay marriage case, judges rules

It took a long time for Judge Bunning rule on this matter. I think he was hoping that the state legislature would come to his rescue and change the law, but realized there were no signs that they were going to take any action. Even so, he was only able to conjure up a ruling using "likely valid" and "every reason to believe", instead of relying on the statutes.

At least the ACLU is planning to take the matter to a state court. That is the proper venue for this question, per KRS 402.250.

One facet of this case that has gone unreported is whether Kim Davis has been using the new forms that were ordered by Governor Bevin. Those forms still include the name of the county and the title of the government official, in full accordance with KRS 402.100. Also unreported is whether the phrase "Pursuant to Federal Court Order" is still being added to the licenses.

I believe that the simplest and least painful resolution to this situation will be to add the words "or inaction" after "In the absence" to KRS 402.240. That will empower Judge Blevins to re-issue marriage licenses in Rowan County that are fully compliant with the law.

 

Kentucky gets new marriage forms.
http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-legislators-consider-creating-2-marriage-licenses-220112405.html

 

That bill cleared the Kentucky state senate today.

Kentucky Senate votes to create separate marriage forms for same-sex couples

As a neutral observer to this particular issue, I don't see a civil rights issue with the new forms, since all couples can choose to identify themselves as "Bride" & "Groom" or as "Spouse" & "Spouse". ETA: I also think that traditional couples should be able to get a license that says "Bride" and "Groom" on it, if they so desire.

However, I don't think this change will solve the Kim Davis problem. If she stays true to her previous actions, she won't allow the processing of any form that identifies Rowan County or lists the title of the Deputy Clerk who signs it.

 

Today the state leaders announced that an agreement had been reached on the new marriage forms:

Compromise reached on single marriage license for all Ky. couples

Kim Davis' attorney had some interesting words about the new form:

It still remains to be seen if Davis will use the new form without altering it.



ETA: The compromise legislation passed the Kentucky House. It now goes to the Senate, which is expect to adopt the House version. The Governor has already endorsed the House version.

 

The fact that she still think that she and her clerks can refuse to sign if they "object" to a marriage is troubling. You are a clerk, and what you believe personally has nothing to do with anything. She is there to provide a service, not approve of a marriage.

 

Kentucky is also considering a separate bill, SB 180, that will permit businesses to practice open-ended discrimination. The authors claim that it is narrowly tailored to clergy and artisans who wish to avoid doing business at same-sex marriage ceremonies. In reality, it is worded to allow anyone to refuse service to anyone.

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Meanwhile, there are conflicting reports regarding the Vatican official who arranged the meeting between Kim Davis and the Pope.

Pope fires Vatican ambassador to US over Kim Davis

No, Pope Francis didn’t exactly fire his ambassador to US — yet

Apparently, Archbishop Vigano is going to retire, and will be replaced by Archbishop Pierre. Vatican sources are pointing their fingers directly at Vigano for initiating the meeting, and claim that Pope Francis was unaware of Kim Davis' part in the same-sex marriage debate.

 

A Kentucky bill to alter the marriage license form unanimously passed both chambers of the Kentucky legislature and goes to the governor for his signature.

Kentucky lawmakers pass bill for 1 marriage license form

After some digging around I found the text of the legislation.

The phrase "of the county clerk issuing the license" following "authorization statement" is removed from the marriage license. The new license does not bear the signature or title of the government official who issues it, nor the name of county where it was issued. Instead, the official signature, title of the official, and name of the county will appear on the marriage certificate and not the marriage license.

This should resolve the Kim Davis situation, but you never know. She could always alter the certificate instead of the license. They are part of the same form, and are covered by the same section of the applicable Kentucky statute.

 

This is all just amazingly ludicrous to me. Why even have a single person sign the damn forms? Who needs someone to personally sign it anyway? Much better this way, without needing anyone to sign it. The government itself authorizes the legal union, not a single person.

 

That's what makes this story so interesting to follow. It's patently ridiculous. And yet even the Pope was tarnished by it.

 

The US seems to be having a love/hate relationship with the pope these days, lol. He meets with Kim Davis, we love him! Wait, he supports working against climage change, hes a terrible pope and we dont follow him anyways!!!

 

I doubt if the Pope knew the details of the Kim Davis saga before she was on his schedule. I'm sure he has to meet a LOT of people. To me, if the powers of the world don't dislike the Pope, he probably isn't doing his job.

 

His people stated that the articles that were making it sound like it was a one on one meeting, were from those who don't like the changes that he has put in place, in the Vatican.
In reality, she and her husband were amongst 9 other people and he only shook her hand. Everything he said, was directed at all of them.
Including a woman who represented the LGBT community.

 

Well, that was some unofficial information that Vatican sources leaked in order to try to diffuse the situation. The only official statement from the Vatican was that Kim Davis did not receive a "real audience" with the Pontiff. Kim Davis' camp has always maintained that her meeting was one-on-one, and nothing the Vatican has said actually contradicts that, nor has anybody come forward and said that they were in the same meeting with Kim Davis and the Pope.

Vatican sources are now pointing the finger at Archbiship Vigano for initiating the meeting, but when the story first broke his office indicated that the idea for the meeting came from the Pope himself.

And that illustrates just how messy the Kim Davis situation is. There is no good outcome to dealing with her, and people end up dissembling and talking in half-truths in the hope that she will just go away.

The recent changes made by the Kentucky legislature also exemplifies things. Sure, the name of the county and the title of the official have been moved from the marriage license to the marriage certificate. But Davis may simply alter the certificate like she has done with the license. The certificate and the license are part of the same marriage form, and both are covered by the same statute. And if she does that, this story will keep going on and on. It's the facepalm that just won't stop.

 

Pope replaces ambassador to U.S. who set up Kim Davis meeting