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Morgan was Right?!

Discussion in 'Episode 609 - No Way Out' started by TWD_fanatic, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. TWD_fanatic

    TWD_fanatic Member

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    Yes, I do think they need to kill SOME people. But in this case...Morgan was right. If he had killed the wolf, the wolf wouldn't have been there to help Denise get to the infirmary. If Denise wasn't in the infirmary, Carl would be a goner!
     
  2. Rapscallion

    Rapscallion Well-Known Member

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    Morgan hasn't been right about anything for a long time.

    The Alpha Wolf only saved Denise because he was bit and needed her to amputate his arm and save his life.
     
  3. Neuropyramidal

    Neuropyramidal Well-Known Member

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    Well, I think there's a difference between being right and being serendipitous. Morgan didn't know Denise needed to get the infirmary to save Carl, that was just happenstance. Morgan was still wrong about the wolf. Saying this makes Morgan 'right' is like saying it makes the wolf right for taking Denise hostage.
     
  4. Ionut

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    Well..

    Carl wouldn't have been in the infirmary to begin with had Morgan not indirectly caused the mess to begin with by letting the Wolves live.

    So, negative on all accounts.
     
  5. Coreenfw

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    2 reasons this is incorrect

    1). Just because the Wolf was helping Denise to the infirmary ( because he was injured and he needed her help not out of any amazingly sudden 'change of heart' kindness on his part ) does not mean that she might have gotten to the infirmary without his 'help'

    2). if Morgan had killed the Wolf at the beginning or anytime after, (especially after Morgan realized he was sick) the Wolf would not of been there, would not have needed treatment.....

    So, if Morgan had reacted like Carol would have, The Wolf would not of been there and Denise probably would've been in the infirmary in the first place. So, Morgan was not right.
     
  6. mtamborra

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    Morgan was never right. Neither was the cheese maker. If the cheese maker would have killed morgan he'd still be alive. There for this "all life is precious" mentality is wrong and so is Morgan. He will die or change this dumb mentality. He feels loyalty to his sensai still which is perfectly normal
     
  7. AndyChicago

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    The Wolf came back for Denise, thus saving her and being bit. Morgan was right. Carol was wrong. Carol also freaked out Sam so much, he froze, got eaten, causing the death of his entire family and the loss of Carl's eye. Not a good week for Carol.
     
  8. asdf

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    Wrong, when Carol shot and further maiming the Wolf he essentially threw himself at the Zombies to clear a path for Denise which essentially was a selfless move to preserve another life at the expense of your own.
     
  9. Rapscallion

    Rapscallion Well-Known Member

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    I repeat: the Alpha Wolf saved Denise because he needed her to save his own life. Do you think he was going to say "I've seen the error of my ways. I was wrong to lead a pack of murdering psychopaths, but I'm going to redeem myself by helping everyone save their town from the Biters." ?
     
  10. asdf

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    He essentially decided to throw himself at the zombies as a last act of martyrdom to clear the path for Denise. Either way Denise needed to be alive for his sake but it clearly portrays him throwing his body completely towards the the Hoard which in my estimation is essentially giving up your life to save another. He did get shot too if didn't catch that.
     
  11. 8307c4

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    I do think Carol shot the wolf prematurely and that there was that slim chance, on the other hand she had no way of knowing either and he was still a really bad guy in her mind... Then like I said, the chance was slim... He may have turned for the good, and he may not have... His last ditch "throwing" himself at the walkers could also have been because either way he was dead so who cares.

    There's no telling, except if Carol had not shot him...
    Nyah, just as well dead.
     
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  12. Lupey

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    On the Talking Dead, they asked the actor about this. Did he change? He said his character was a chameleon.
     
  13. drifter77

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    In that moment, Carol would have had no idea what interactions took place between the Wolf and Denise. As far as she knew, the Wolf took Denise at gunpoint as a hostage. So shooting Denise's "captor" was the right thing to do with the information she had at the time.
     
  14. Sharpie61

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    It doesn't matter that Carol shot him. He got bit and would have died anyways.
     
  15. Neuropyramidal

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    It was the right thing to do no matter what information she had. The wolf had to die, he couldn't be trusted to change anyway. You can't allow a person who seeks out groups just to mass murder them to exist, knowing where you live, even for just a few hours until the bite killed him. I would have shot him even if he was on his knees begging for forgiveness.
     
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    Perfect response. You brought it on upon yourself. It doesn't matter if you became a born again Christian. You cannot expect people to throw you a bone for your past irreversible actions.
     
  17. walkon

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    Trust a wolf to change? Can a Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard his spots? Carol made the right decision.
     
  18. Terminator

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    This makes absolutely no sense. If Morgan hadn't kept the Wolf, he wouldn't have needed to have Denise go to him in the first place and she would have been in the infirmary all along.
    Most of the latest deaths have been because of Morgan. He let the 2 Wolves live in the forest, which led to the attack in the first place. The attack resulted in the horn blowing and bringing the horde to Alexandria which resulted in more deaths.
    Morgan needs to go.
     
  19. Morgotha

    Morgotha Well-Known Member

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    If Morgan had killed the Wolf, then Carol and Morgan wouldn't have fought and could have escorted Denise. Alternatively, Rick could have just run over to their house with Carl, and if necessary, run back to the infirmary for supplies.
     
  20. Spidey

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    If a drunk driver kills a murderer and prevents him from killing others, does that means drunk driving is the morally right decision?

    No
     

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