How in the hell has this one slipped through the cracks?????

 

And with Alpha dead, he'd just have to stroll back to where Beta and the Whisperers have his friends held captive. Seeing Daryl return alone, Beta would burst into tears and surrender at once. The remaining Whisperers would throw themselves at Daryl's feet, worshipping him as their saviour. At no point would anybody (Beta, for example) grab Carol and threaten to cut her throat unless Daryl surrenders, and while he's thinking about that none of the Whisperers would sneak up behind him and bring him down, and none of the prisoners would end up on additional spikes.

I like your style, do you write for anything currently broadcast (or available on DVD)?

 

I did think about that scene where Daryl and Alpha were standing on the cliff looking over the massive herd. They were only a metre away from each other. Daryl could jump on Alpha, especially there was a few seconds where Alpha turned her head away from Daryl to look at the herd. But, if Daryl killed Alpha, then Carol+Michonne+Yumiko would be dead. I do not think Daryl would risk the life of his friends.

Having said this, just do not estimate Alpha. She is female and is obviously weaker than Beta. But, I bet her fighting skill could not be shameful. I imagine, before Beta arrived (assuming Beta started to join the group sometime after Alpha formed...or, perhaps, Alpha did not start the Whisperers but she joined as a nobody and then challenged the then-Alpha and killed him/her and became Alpha herself), she dominated the group with her own skill (most likely including physical strength and fighting skill). One example, when she killed the whisperer who saw her moment of weakness, she stabbed so swiftly and accurately. But, I would still bet Daryl can take her down on an one-to-one fight.

 

I understand the complaint about Daryl not killing Alpha on the cliff, but let's be real... Actions have consequences and patience matters.

Just because Daryl CAN do something doesn't mean he SHOULD. He could have and DID punch Negan in the face in the season 7 premiere and that immediately got Glenn killed.

I've mentioned this elsewhere, but Alpha sparing Daryl et al. is genuinely realistic.

Also strength isn't just measured physically. Alpha has demonstrated that she is ruthlessly cunning, a strategist, and all around sadistic. She OBVIOUSLY knows what she's doing for her to lead, manage, and provide for hundreds of cult followers that live among thousands of the dead.

 

When you feel the need to underline that what you're saying isn't sexist, or racist, or homophobic, it generaly is. Just saying.

I can't find your post where you explained why Alpha (and Beta!) would have spared Darryl and the other fighters. To me, makes no sense. Especially Darryl, who've confronted them quite a few times now.

As for consequences, as I've said elsewhere, Darryl has absolutely no way of knowing if the others are still alive or if they are being skinned to death, and Alpha just told him she's been in the Kingdom, and he doesn't know either who's alive there, she even speaks of her daughter in a past tence. He has a choice to make: going back as a captive with the others (and they're all still captive and defenseless) or trying to be the one free warrior from our group, a position from which things can happen. The only way he goes for the first choice is knowing Carole and him have bullet proof script armor. Otherwise, the better choice is to get free and eliminate the head of the snake.

 

Throwing it out into the universe....

We saw Alpha shed a tear over Lydia choosing to live within a community rather than stay with the Alphas group. Granted her love, and I use that word loosely, is rather twisted and bent in regard to Lydia. I think in that moment though she does feel sadness at having her daughter choose practical strangers over what Alpha sees as their family (dysfunctional for sure)

I propose that Alpha spares Daryl (and the others by extension) because she believes that if there is anyone in the communities that will try to keep Lydia safe it is Daryl. He has proven to Alpha that he will go to great lengths to safeguard her (albeit the first save was a bit begrudgingly). While she may not be 100% convinced that he can be successful she knows that he is Lydia's best hope within those communities.

Also, in the past Daryl was quick to assert the knee jerk reaction method. Seems that in the past 6 years he has matured and is more willing to take a cautious approach in an effort to determine possible consequences for his actions. Will that always be the best route to take? Maybe not, but it is certainly better than lashing out at your aggressor in a fit of rage and get your best friend's head bashed in.

If Alpha's plan all along was to kill Carol, Michonne and Yumiko it would not have mattered if Daryl killed her while on the cliff. But if Alpha had no intention of killing them and Daryl would have chosen to kill her then that would have certainly sealed their fates

 

@NakedCity you do realize that @jiggeryqua was being sarcastic right? Lol

 

Of course. He was being an ass for no reason with someone who had an absolutely valid opinion about Darryl's decision making.

 

Lmao ok just making sure.

 

I'll take Dave's slight sexism over jigger's superiority complex anyday and I don't think that's proper forum etiquete to greet newcomers with that kind of reaction when you disagree with a valid positon. I feel pretty bad that there's a whole lot of regular members who encourage him being pompous like that, the doctors will have to double his meds.

 

Yeah but do you not see his point too? I think Daryl is being a lot more proactive this year as opposed to his reactive stance in many seasons past.....getting some of his people killed.

 

When realization sets in that I am now defending Daryl and his choices
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Absolutely, and I replied to GrungeMan who has a similar stand, plus I can appreciate Dnae's effort to explain Darryl's decision (even though I think it's taking an unnecessary chance). I just think there's other ways to communicate with people explaining their position in good faith.

 

wait........

Are you saying it is an unnecessary chance for Daryl to take OR is it that you are saying it is an unnecessary chance for me to make an attempt to explain something?????

 

Ahahahahh, no no no darling! (and love the gift)

As I said in my post just above, I think Daryl took an unnecessary chance in trusting Alpha. Most likley, she would have killed them all. He just pushed Beta down an elevator shaft, there's no way he's going home alive if it wasn't for his script armor. The only thing to do, IMO, was to get rid of Alpha and to try to free the other captives, and not to return kneel down with the others. He knows how that ended with Negan.

 

LOL Daryl. At least that's how I read it.