You know what else I don't see in your images? These protestors did NOT spraypaint their names and catchy slogans on every flat surface, topple tons of statues or deface paintings, etc.

As far as the protest being "mostly" white people, that just makes sense, doesn't it? I mean blacks represent only 13% of the population, if they were the majority of protestors, that would be a "black protest" not a protest based on political pov. What I see is a protest representative of the conservative pov.

My point is be that they weren't protesting the government's actions against "white people", they were protesting the government's actions to everyone. Therefore, the race of the protestors shouldn't matter. White, black, hispanic, asian -- this was a politically-based protest, not a race-based one.

 

The "hang mike pence" was hyperbole from a few excited individuals. The killing of a police officer WAS a crime and WAS rioting. The killer will be punished. Was that man's actions representative of the movement as a whole though? No. And to look at it another way, was it that man's *intent* to kill the police officer? Lobbing a fire extinguisher at a group of police with shields and helmets? I doubt if he believed anyone would die from his actions. Not that I'm excusing him, mind you, he still has to pay for the life he's wrongly taken, but it's not like he brought a shotgun and started mowing people down.

Compare the actions of the fire extinguisher guy to the actions of the police officer who shot the woman at the capitol. She had no weapon and was shot dead. Since the police overall weren't shooting the protestors overall, and since this woman wasn't behaving in a violent or threatening manner, did he have any reason to shoot her? No. And his actions -- especially coming from a trained, professional police officer -- were actions that would be known ahead of time to likely result in her death. IOW, the police murdered her. Where are the riots on her behalf?

So there were 15,000 protestors and one of them killed a police officer probably without intending to do so. There were only hundreds of police present, and one of *them* murdered a protestor. So the police acted with more murderous intent than the protestors. Aren't you going to say THAT is a problem?

The above being said, the vast majority of the 15,000 people never went in to the buildings at all, they were outside protesting. Isn't that about what YOU would say if this were, I don't know, an antifa or blm "protest"?

 

You're absolutely right. IF that policy was enforced evenly, that would be my position. It is NOT my position when one political side is allowed to set up "autonomous zones" and freely commit crimes and destroy government property for *months* and the other is called insurrection and a threat to democracy after a few *hours*.

You've also neglected the other "If" scenario, which is that if a police officer shot an unarmed woman at a BLM protest you (all) and the media would be *screaming* about police brutality and abuse, but for this woman's life? Nothing.

 

Nope. LOL, if all you meant was "the majority of these people are white", I'd agree. If your point was that these people were fighting to put "white rights" over that of the nation - I don't think you've proven that at all.

I still don't see your answer as to how these people are "fascists", either.

Secure their bicycles? Who knows? And I agree, you don't see them at social justice marches, what you see are "molotov cocktails", the weapon of choice for revolutionaries *trying to overthrow their government*. And those multiple domestic terrorists USED the molotov cocktails on multiple occasions, unlike the guy with the zip ties who did NOT use them. LOL, we should thank God the Trump protestors are not like the BLM/Antifa protestors or they probably would have burned the Capitol to the ground!

One reason is that a looter or vandal KNOWS they are committing a crime, whereas someone who is just standing in a public building might not believe themselves a criminal, hence the selfie. I think we can both agree that there were plenty of people taking pictures of criminals at BLM marches who were committing crimes, so I don't really get why taking a selfie would be related to criminal activity.

 

I would say " concerned patriots", or "passionate lovers of freedom". I'm o.k. with your use of "white" in that context, but think it was unnecessary to state. You might as well have called them "shoe-wearing fascists" - assuming you'd still have wanted to call them fascists.

As I understand it, these people showed up because they though an election was unfairly stolen by a corrupt government/media conspiracy. That doesn't make them fascists, that makes them people who were trying to defend American values - even if they were wrong.

Did the protesters SAY that's why they brought them? I ask that because it's not the only reason a protester might have them. For example, what if they wanted to chain themselves together so they couldn't be removed (like the tree huggers do)? It's easy to assume they wanted to tie up Pelosi, but practically speaking, would they really have to? A couple of adult men trying to restrain an 80 year old woman? I doubt if they'd have to resort to tying her up to keep her from running away.

My point was the Capitol did not look like (this image) where "protesters" in Portland were actively throwing molotov cocktails at the police.

No, they were trying to *restore* the government from the people who they thought stole it. Big difference.

Hey, I agree 1000%! What they did was as stupid as can be - and criminal. Why ANYONE would think it was acceptable to try to take over the capitol buildings is beyond me. OTOH, these same people have seen students take over university offices, protesters/rioters take over police stations, declare an autonomous zone inside an American city, all without being punished or called criminals in the media. Do you really think it's that unreasonable for them to say to themselves, "if it's o.k. for those Americans to take over something as a form of protest, my group should be able to do the same thing"?

 

LOL, you can't let that go, can you?

 

Justifiably so. Protesting an election is one thing, Treason is another. If this woman really was trying to sell US government secrets to Russia she deserves everything that's coming to her.