Um, that wall was a shitty wall, fortified from the wrong direction, with minimal reinforcement. I'm surprised it was still standing for the tower to fall on.

 

Anyway here's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc

 

Lol I'm watching the episode now, I like how they are building the supports on the right side of the wall now

 

They don't have much choice unless walkers start learning to use a hammer.

 

No, that part didn't bother me, I'm just brain-dead enough to dig it.

What did bother me is that once again, here we are at the split or end of a season and BOOM! their whole life-style is about to be wiped out, we all know what comes next: Big massacrous fight with lots of confusion (way worse than the Wolf thing), everyone gets split up, eventually a rag-tag group rejoins up and then must find their way all over again BUT!!!

And no matter what happens?
They can NOT go back to ASZ!
No, just like with the prison, and Hershel's farm (granted I think that one really was shot)...

They are never going to find a nice peaceful place.

Just one more long drawn out fight, hardly found a place to settle down...
And now they're all going to get blown in every direction.
That's what bothers me.

I could have tolerated some settling down and just ho-hum boring drama with marriage and children and bullshit going on, I could have handled more in-depth scenarios like having something going with that tunnel and all sorts of side-stories and episodes they could have built on with ASZ.
But then I guess we've already had too much of that, so back to ripping and tearing everything up so we can start over.

 

Ah, then I believe you may be in for a wonderful surprise. I think this group may just be done with the running in FEAR from what's out there. Perhaps it is time to show the dead that it is they that should fear the living?

*walks away whistling*

 

Hahah I know, I just keep imagining them saying "Well this makes a lot more sense, why didn't they do this in the first place?!" while they are working

 

Plug the hole in the wall and start fighting...

 

The wall is not that 'mighty', primarily due to the struts are on the 'wrong' side.

When a lateral force is applied from the outside, the structs barely mean anything. (BTW, there is not a strut between the tower and the wall due to the space limitation.) Walkers pushing from the outside can only generate a nominal force because maybe only the first couple rows of walkers are actually pushing with a certain degree of force. And they do not push in sync as well. More importantly, they are pushing at shoulder height only. The moment arm is small w.r.t. the base of the wall.

However, when the tower collapses, its entire weight acts at the tip of the wall and the overturning moment is much larger (with a moment arm of >4m!). Not surprisingly, the wall itself fails like as it should, as a rigid body.

And, that tower is not that flimsy. Take a look at the few pics below.
http://www.walkingdeadforums.com/fo...son-5-filming-pictures-updates-62532-124.html

I reckon, if the struts are all on the inside and there are a few more struts in that portion of the wall, then that portion of the wall just might not collapse.

But this collapse must happen for the show to progress.

 

Like with any structure and this being a makeshift Apocalypse structure, parts are going to be weaker than others.

The Semi-Truck impact already had some of it's energy diverted from the truck smashing through the house before it came to a halt on the wall and that was a different angle of impact than the tower falling down on the wall. The truck didn't also go into it head on. The Walkers aren't going to create an impact force like either the truck or the tower and they are distributed all over it, rather than on one point.

The way Glenn survived was far less believable than the tower breaking a part of the wall. Anti-climatic as possible as well.

 

It didn't seem too far fetched to me. For one, that wall is braced on the wrong side. Those braces did absolutely nothing to stop the wall from collapsing. We're not talking about some ultra-fortified 3 feet thick steel reinforced concrete here. It's sheet metal. It's thicker sheet metal, yes, but it's still sheet metal.

I'm a physicist, so I know a thing or two about forces. I'm incredibly critical of bad physics in TV shows and movies. This didn't set off my stickler radar at all.

You're calling it a rickety little shack, but that thing weighs a lot. There was nothing tiny about it. It weighs at least as much as the semi did. Pick up a board and it doesn't feel that heavy...pick up several thousand boards...well...you won't be able to. That was a lot of weight coming down.

The semi hit the wall at a glancing angle at a lower point on the wall. Walls are strongest when they take a blow on a plane that's perpendicular to their own plane, which is how the semi hit it. The tower fell down from above and broke over the wall. After that it had the rubble from above the break pulling the fence down at the same time as the rubble from below the break was pushing into it from the outside. That's an incredible amount of force. Another point worth considering is that the semi was decelerating as it collided with the wall. The tower was accelerating. This creates significantly different impact scenarios.

We can also add to that the fact that this was very close to the section of the wall that had already been compromised by the semi. The structural integrity was already drastically reduced, which is why they were bracing it right there. Because of the semi collision, the wall was a lot less rigid and accordingly it had much less structural integrity. I didn't really find it that odd at all.

 

it wasn't a tiny shack. it was a huge 3 story chapel. of course it would destroy the wall. i was totally right about Alexandria. i knew that place was doomed

 

No.

 

Yes.

 

Maybe.

 

There is an excellent shot of the tower falling on the wall in the sneak preview shown on TD.

 

I think you're way off base here. That wasn't a tiny wooden shack. It was a tall church steeple that would have had considerable weight behind it as it came down. Plus the fact that it pushed in against the unsupported side of the wall, the breach is not so unfathomable. Plus, I don't think the semi hit the wall, but the building, which in turn has caused some of the weakness in the structure.

 

I know what happens.

But is funny how they "FEAR" what is out there now suddenly. Why would they fear it all of a sudden? 2 seasons of on and off running and season 4 and 5 would off thought them about running.

 

Screengrabs from the last 5 seconds or so of 607